Livin' la Vida Loca
Earthrise: I'm probably one of the few, well possibly only person, to actually like this idea. If this ever rolled out in Europe, and they bundled the CM10 with a network connection deal I'd take a close look.
My CM1 is my smartphone. I use it constantly as such, and also as my high quality always with me camera.
Androole: Well...that was disappointing.
The smartphone-ness of the CM1 is obviously a huge part of the appeal. Not being able to make calls on it just makes it another thing to go in your pocket.
Granted, it is still the smallest 1" sensor camera by a huge margin. But at the $850 price point without being able to replace a phone, it doesn't make sense to me.
If they have stripped away more of the smartphone functionality and sold it as a $400 super-slim point & shoot, I think it would have had a market.
And here I was hoping that they were really iterating on the CM1, which I thought was a promising concept...
The CM1 is not compromised in the camera dept. Just the opposite, in fact. It is an outstanding camera, especially given it's compactness.
guest2015: crippled camera, crippled phone, has lte. makes no sense. android 5.0 lol
Nothing crippled about the camera. It is in fact, an outstanding camera. I own a CM1, and it is also an outstanding smartphone.
Siewwah: I think a 7" tablet with a good lens makes more sense....since they don't want to have the phone function they should use the tablet function better...
A 7" tablet? Seriously?
Michael Ma: Relax people. This model was not meant for the market most of us are in. Just the get CM1 with the phone feature.
Agreed, especially given that the camera part is the same and that the CM1 is now selling around the $500 mark.
No phone functionality? What the %$#@&*.
I own the CM1 and it is an outstanding camera, but it is also MY PHONE, and I use it as my phone exclusively.
The advantage of the CM1 (apparantly not the CM10), is that I can carry a very capable and pocketable camera and smartphone in a single unit.
Sorry Panasonic, I do not get it. Why remove the phone capabilities, when one still needs a SIM card for 'other' connectivity?
Am I missing something here?
mpgxsvcd: For anyone asking for anything greater than 4:2:0 can you show me a real world example where 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 has a distinguishable difference from 4:2:0 for video?
Don't even bother showing me a test chart. I want real world examples.
BIG difference when it comes to grading.
TN Args: Just goes to show that compact cameras are not dead if you show innovation.
It's all a matter of need. To 'most people' all they NEED in an imaging device is their smartphone. This is why the compact camera market is near dead, and higher end camera sales are slowing.
joyclick: Casio has a knack for creating cameras with features that appeal to the masses and sell in zillions.They have a niche with very popular models which often outperform the models from the big guns at reasonable prices.
The selfie cameras in particular, are very popular in Asia. I know a girl who has a Casio selfie camera, and she loves it. She must take thousands of selfies, LOL.
GodSpeaks: 8K video. That's going to require a 45+MP sensor. Bring it ON!!!
Wait, maybe not. I really do not want a 45+MP 4/3 sensor. 24MP would be more than enough for me.
And before anyone jumps up and down saying 8K video is only 33MP, yes true if you have a 16:9 sensor, but you need 45MP plus (depending on video crop) for a 4/3 sensor.
Probably true, but you just know it is going to appear on a GHx camera sooner rather than later.
Panasonic should give us better QUALITY 1080 and 4K FIRST.
I wish that the manufactures would concentrate on improving the QUALITY of the video, rather than trying to go beyond 4K resolutions. At least for the consumer/prosumer market.
The days of us having to put up with 4:2:0 8 bit video should be over. Instead all we keep getting is the same drek at higher resolutions.
8K video. That's going to require a 45+MP sensor. Bring it ON!!!
Wetzels: With hard drives getting larger and larger and with cloud space getting more and more generous I fail to see the need for a $149 product.
BadScience (perhaps aptly named :-) ) simply applying MORE compression in PS (or whatever image editor you use) will achieve the same space savings, and quite possibly WITHOUT the additional image artifacts jpgmini introduces.
So who really needs jpgmini?
2eyesee: This shows how ridiculous Sony's SUPER FINE JPG setting they have in some of their cameras, which are DOUBLE the size of normal JPG with no improvement in image quality.
Somebody needs to tell these people that MASS STORAGE IS DIRT CHEAP.
Do we really need an overcompressed jpg as a new format?
darngooddesign: How much name recognition does Mamiya have? I wonder if Phase One will just roll everything under their branding if they have better name recognition.
I have owned Mamiya cameras since the 70's. I started with one of the twin lens cameras, moved to the 645 when it came out and stayed with that until quite recently. Sold off all my Mamiya gear when Nikon announced the D800. Some very good memories from Mamiya.
Kamox: Phase One wants to stay ahead of the competition, MF starts to feel the pressure both from below (high MP full frame cameras, just wait the answer from Nikon and Canon to Sony) and from the "colleagues" (Hasselblad, Leica, Pentax).3 years from now, 40 MP full frame cameras will have absorbed 50 MP digital backs market, so you'll need high MP count, great video capability, perfect ergonomy (to justify the price point). And you need a fast time-to-market, so if your partner is slow to understand the situation, you buy it and do it yourself.
Video? You buy medium format for it's still image capability, not video. I shoot a lot of video and cannot even see the point in FF video, never mind MF.
Shibainu Denzel: Leica SL copied a boxy mirrorless body design from Sony A7 series! 😅
And Sony copied the design from Panasonic.
forpetessake: It means that Panasonic FF is coming soon!
Very very much doubt it.Panasonic would be crazy to try and market a FF (24x36mm) sensored camera. To do so would undermine their MFT cameras, plus they would have to come out with a whole new line of lenses (unless you think Panasonic FF users would be willing to buy the Leica lenses).
Well I see the trolls are out in force today. I am also willing to bet that 99+% of the naysayers couldn't afford this camera anyway.
Not to worry folks, it's a Leica, aimed at and for those that can appreciate Leica, and like the opening blurb says, have high credit limits.
I always thought it was only a matter of time before this happened. It is because of a few irresponsible idiots that such government actions become necessary.