Mike FL: One day Pana will catch up Olympus's IBIS, but for stay ahead, Oly also submitted "Patent of Olympus Dual IS" months ago, and you can see it by English translation from Japanese.
IMO, MFT sensor is kind of small for low-light, but APSC only has less than a STOP advantage. So a STOP better IS advantage means a lot between different MFT cams.
Yes it can read the data. There is a setting on newer OM-D to use Panasonic O.I.S. This works better than IBIS for long lenses.
xlynx9: Mirrorless is where most of the innovation is taking place. 5 axis stabilisation, advanced wifi and social connectivity, face tracking, electronic shutter, prime lenses which are fast, sharp and affordable, 3D lenses, in-camera: art filters; sweep panorama; focus & exposure stacking; distortion & chromatic aberration correction, larger & brighter viewfinders. This innovation will continue because live view enables greater scene awareness and the software will only get more intelligent.
what do you mean bob?
fberns: I've read this ("same image quiality") a few times here lately, but NO, Mirorless cameras don't have the exact same image quality as DSLRs.I'm sure you are aware that the sensor that is always on, is warmer than a DSLR sensor and that adds noise - I didn't see any measurements yet, so I'm not sure how relevant that is. BUT - I could always confirm the theory by comparing equal (or near equal) sensors in your lab test image. DSLRs with the same sensor are noticeably less noisy in every comparison I did yet.It's only with imroved sensors that aren't available for DSLRs that they can keep up with DSLRs (Samsung NX1 against the likes of Pentax K-3 or Nikon 7200 / or Sony A7R II against Nikon D810)
This should be testable by shooting a dark scene with a mirrorless camera, once by taking an exposure *immediately* after cold boot, then again after leaving the camera running in live view for 5 minutes, then comparing the frames. I assume you're comparing RAW in the lab tests.
perhaps try reforming your question/statement/insult in a way which contributes to the discussion. These things all happened on mirrorless first and in many cases exclusively.
Mirrorless is where most of the innovation is taking place. 5 axis stabilisation, advanced wifi and social connectivity, face tracking, electronic shutter, prime lenses which are fast, sharp and affordable, 3D lenses, in-camera: art filters; sweep panorama; focus & exposure stacking; distortion & chromatic aberration correction, larger & brighter viewfinders. This innovation will continue because live view enables greater scene awareness and the software will only get more intelligent.
Glen K Wells: Hope this new camera has properly solved the shutter lens blur issues that affected GX7 (to a lesser degree). Again who do they ask when they say to potential consumers "what do you want in the next GX camera?"
I cannot imagine anyone saying " Well drop the built in flash coz nobody ever uses it!!! and then don't even put one in the box to get people to buy it on top of the £1000 camera price"Really?!?Do they even ask people on future models or are all the designers locked up without contact to the outside world?
I hope your info is right (mine was only anecdotal).
No, I was referring to their high end models like GX7 not selling that well, despite having higher R&D costs to the cheaper models.
I'm pretty sure this camera is *primarily* the result of them listening to their customers. Make no mistake; if it doesn't sell well this will be the last time.
Yes a flash can be useful but most street photography enthusiasts would rather a lower price.
xlynx9: Does anyone know the native aspect ratio of the EVF? I ask because the GX7 sounded good on paper, but the 16:9 aspect ratio effectively made the EVF tiny compared to others of the same magnification.
Thanks you guys!
disraeli demon: Finally! FINALLY! A rangefinder-style body with a fully-articulated screen! I've been waiting for that since they introduced the GF-1!
Nice to see Panasonic sticking with this form-factor for their "serious" camera bodies. Not so sure about the size increase, but I'll wait to handle one before commenting.
Once thing on price: generally, the price of Panasonic bodies has settled to something far more reasonable after a year or so. Wait a bit, and you get a much better deal.
Something I learned in my 6 years of using m43, is the systems strength is it's small lenses, and body size isn't important. In fact, the larger bodies can "feel" lighter as they don't want to tip forward with a larger lens attached.
onlooker: Wait, this thing is nearly 100g heavier than G7? What is this obsession of camera manufacturers with making ergonomically-sized cameras unnecessarily heavy? Why, do they think we wouldn't buy it if it didn't weight our jacket down like a brick in the pocket? Plastic is your friend. Quit this pretense that one is buying a camera for life. Digital cameras are have a built-in obsolescence, and the plastic body will certainly outlast the rest.
There are premium plastics too.
Does anyone know the native aspect ratio of the EVF? I ask because the GX7 sounded good on paper, but the 16:9 aspect ratio effectively made the EVF tiny compared to others of the same magnification.
the zoom feature seems a bit obvious. But then I realised Instagram can't zoom at all.
This is the most interesting news I've seen here in years.
rishi o': Apple's biggest mistake here is not clarifying if Photos will have an equivalent or greater feature set as Aperture so we can know how to move forward. The whole statement about photographers being able to store all their photos on iCloud is extremely ignorant. How do I feel about it all? How many cuss words are allowed on this forum?
Marketing announcements are never vague by accident. They didn't clarify because the answer will be no. Just like the switch to Apple Maps or Final Cut Pro X, it will be half-assed for them, and painful for users.
rfclark: One reason this didn't crash and burn like a lot of our early military test rockets is that this rocket is built with private money!The engineers made sure they knew what they were doing before they lit the fuse!
Some Soviets were imprisoned when they were perceived to have screwed up. In many cases, their friends & colleagues were killed by failed launches. There was plenty of incentive.
Your premise you can't be fired from a public sector job for screwing up is also completely false. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Rawmeister: Hard to believe anybody would shoot anything with film.Oh well - some people still listen to vinyl on turntables too.People will be people.
I've had a lot of fun with film, and it has improved my skills a lot, skills I can apply to digital.
Anyone serious about improving their digital photography should own a film camera and take it out now and then.
Cheng Bao: Since when digital photography review drops 'digital' from name?
It is digital, just the digital part (the scanner) is sold separately.
A real innovation would be automatic lens caps like many compacts have, but I guess it's kind of complicated to do.
Lonnie Janzen: or... You could just put it in your pocket.
hey, don't let the hipsters ruin skinny jeans for the rest of us. the pockets on them work just fine :-)