nerd2: It's funny so many people are fooled by LG's marketing lies.
-Sensor itself is the same size and MP as note 4 / GS6 (1/2.6" 16MP)-Aperture is hardly any faster with G4(f1.83 vs f1.9, or 0.15 stop difference) -"IPS Quantum" LCD is just IPS LCD with fancy brand name. It is hardly better than other IPS LCDs in terms of color/brightness/contrast and clearly worse than latest AMOLEDs.
Oh and the full manual control support - sounds good on paper, but the sensors lacks aperture control. You can manually control ISO and shutter speed on other android cameras anyway.
"LG's marketing lies."- did LG claim that the G4 sensor isn't the same size and MP as a note 4?- did LG claim that f1.8 is more than 0.15 stop difference than f1.9?- did LG claim that IPS LCDs are better than the latest AMOLEDs?- did LG claim that sensors can have aperture control?
please post what press releases you must have found because they're not written here. or better yet, don't bother, since these falsehoods that you imply were from LG marketing are really from your mind.
Papi61: 2011: you don't need any tablet smaller than 10"!! Smaller Android tablets are crap!!2012: Apple steals the idea and releases the iPad mini. The iSheep love it.2013: 4" is the perfect screen, anything larger is ridiculous!!2014: Apple steals the idea and releases a phablet and a 5" phone. The iSheep love them.2015: You don't need more than 8mp in a phone camera!! Those higher-def Android phones are just ridiculous!! The iPhone is still better than them!!2016: --you know what's going to happen.
See a pattern here?
why start at 2011? why not start when other companies were copying the kodak brownie?
duartix: By now I'm sure that Apple have a patent on copying ideas from other companies and patenting them. :)That's why they can do it but when others try, they get sued. :P
oh you certainly thought you were, when you said "I'm sure that Apple have a patent on copying ideas from other companies and patenting them. That's why they can do it but when others try, they get sued"
Petrogel: Together with the remote control patent, the magnetic solution lens holder patent , the light field -like imaging system patent and who knows what's next patent, i believe Apple "will use this patent to sue anyone who'll design anything else about mobile devices.And maybe one day Apple will patent photography itself
you get your rotten manners from being raised by your mother? and you don't know your geography or you can't spell?
in either case, you wouldn't understand that you made the false assumption that the broken economy is just about greece. apple, like greece, is just one player in a field. thinking that it is the only bad firm (or country) is to ignore the flaws in the larger system (or economy), where it just participates in.
no, you just need to explain why you said "up-north". you haven't learned how to stop jumping to false conclusions.
antarctica is in the north? and your mind can't comprehend that the root of the problem isn't caused by one entity, but by the entire system?
blaming one company won't a broken patent system, just like handing bailouts won't fix a broken economy
Mr Birk: Wow, High res.... Wonder How Nokia could achieve 38 mpix without shift ;)
"probably beyond the diffraction limit" - you would be wrong.
you're not familiar with pragmatus, empire ip and ipnav?
Mister Roboto: Lol anything they can think of regardless if it already exists or not must be patented. iPatent =D
Why make your life miserable Apple? Just create a phone camera with larger sensor, optical zoom, 16-24MP and call it a day.
and who, apart from you, ever thought that a company might be a living breathing entity that rejoices and pats you?
doctor digi: Hmm. No mention of the Xiaomi Mi4.
correct, smartphones not worth recommending are not mentioned.
spigot: OnePlus One should at least be on the list. It had raw in Kitkat itself.
you want dpreview to recommend phones that aren't primarily available on their countries's cellular networks?
worldcup1982: nothing beats the nokia 808 still.waiting for the successor, if there will ever be one.the 1020 is worse, worse lens,worse timing...
"students makes me knowing about it" - sure, that selected sample is all you need to judge everyone's usage of phones
Mister Roboto: Wow, still iPhone is there no matter what...
All-rounder? What kind of award is that?
Note 4, Galaxy 6, CM1, Nokia should get that title as they are miles better than iPhone in IQ and some of them have 4K video. iPhone is using 10 year old technology in it camera and any 50$ camera out there can easily trounce iPhone's output anytime of the day.
"the IQ sucks and all the others are better" - depends on your tolerance for "sucks" and "better"
"99,99% use their phones to such purpose." - so teaching photography also turns you into a statistics expert?
antares103: The Note 4 is the latest iteration of Samsung's top-end line of so-called 'phablets'
and yet, it still doesnt support DNG on Lollipop.
@antares103 - you CAN emphasize words without feeling that it is necessary to do so
"Geez you must be bored..." - chill, chillgreg, chill. =]
"He spoke of the _vast majority_ of them, not _all_ of them. " - a condescending view of any number in a group is still a condescending view.
"seem to only want to cater for the former." - most phone manufacturers have priorities to meet, and for some successful ones, user-centered design trumps feature showboating.
"...dont care about new and awesome tech. They use their cameras for selfies and thats it" - so you're going to ignore all the "phone photos" out there that are not themselves? you have a condescending view of other phone owners.
"So "RAW" makes sense in those terms." - nothing stops you and others from incorrectly treating raw as an acronym, but the existence of other acronyms that are raw camera image formats still does not make capitalizing "raw" necessary.