mpgxsvcd: This camera looks great when you compare it to almost 3 year old cameras like the LX7 that were half the price of the X30. However, when you compare it to modern cameras(Rx100 MK III and LX100) you will see that its undersized sensor is its Achilles’ heel.
Yes the RX100 MK III and LX100 are more expensive than the X30. However, the extra money is well worth it. The X30 is a nice effort but they simply choose the wrong sensor size. It needs at least a 1 inch sensor and closer to 4/3” would have been much better.
The LX7 was selling for $275 about 4-5 months after it came out. It stayed at that price on and off for almost a year and then went back up closer to $350-$400 more recently.
mpgxsvcd: Just curious why the Panasonic LX100 and the Sony RX100 MK III are not listed in the same category as this camera. In fact I can’t find those cameras at all even when I check the “include all categories” box.
If this camera is in the Premium Enthusiast category what category are the LX100 and R100 MK III in?
I guess I found the answer to my question. The LX100 and RX100 MK III are in the “Enthusiast Large Sensor Compact Camera” category. That actually makes sense because the small sensor is the biggest drawback for the X30.
Just curious why the Panasonic LX100 and the Sony RX100 MK III are not listed in the same category as this camera. In fact I can’t find those cameras at all even when I check the “include all categories” box.
mpgxsvcd: I am going to blame Allison Johnson for everything from now on because she told us to.
Just joking of course. Thank you for all of your efforts here.
I am going to blame Allison Johnson for everything from now on because she told us to.
For clarity: This did not receive an award at all(No Gold or Silver), right? I see the score for the camera now but I wanted to make sure its award was not omitted accidentally like the score was omitted by accident originally.
I understand that user experience is very important. However, image quality is equally as important if not more important. The comparison images in this review show that the X30 does not produce acceptable results for this price range at any ISO value.
If this camera was a $275 camera like the LX7 was when I bought it then I might consider. Since the X30 is twice the price there are much better options for a little bit extra money.
This camera looks great when you compare it to almost 3 year old cameras like the LX7 that were half the price of the X30. However, when you compare it to modern cameras(Rx100 MK III and LX100) you will see that its undersized sensor is its Achilles’ heel.
Sadly it didn't receive a score at all.
mpgxsvcd: I absolutely love the Direct Aperture, exposure compensation, and Shutter speed control dials. However, I can get those exact same things on the Panasonic LX100.
What I can’t live with is a fixed focal length lens. At 16 Megapixels you aren’t going to be able to crop enough to overcome the fixed focal length.
This appears to be an excellent camera that I would never ever even consider buying simply because the LX100 fits my needs so much better for less money. However, I will say that their implementation of Auto ISO looks to be outstanding. I wish other companies would do the same thing.
That is a really expensive 35mm F2.0 prime lens.
I absolutely love the Direct Aperture, exposure compensation, and Shutter speed control dials. However, I can get those exact same things on the Panasonic LX100.
Great, but when are you going to review the Fujifilm X100T?
Oh wait! I guess I should actually read the reviews before I post.
If the T6s is rated higher and gets the Gold award then I will just stop looking at those sections all together.
The content of the Dpreview reviews is just outstanding. However, their scoring system and awards just seem to cheapen the review. They just seem so whimsical when compared to the really well thought out and executed reviews.
I would love to see an example where 16 megapixels simply isn’t enough. Most kit lenses won’t even resolve that much detail. Dpreview had to resort to the “exotic” 42.5mm F1.2 lens to get consistent results in the high resolution mode.
rubank: I have a question for the DPR crew.
Oly´s HR mode is always referred to as 40 Mpix. But when i download a HR ORF I get a 64 Mpix image, also after conversion. Why is this never mentioned?(I guess the in-camera JPG is reduced to 40 Mpix, but still?).
It was questionable whether the RAW file actually adds more resolution over the 40 megapixel JPG images or not. Until last week there really weren’t any programs that could render the RAW files very well. Now there are several programs that can render them well and in my opinion the RAW files do in fact offer more resolution.
mpgxsvcd: That lens looks great. However, the picture looks fairly noisy for ISO 400.
Well it wouldn’t be so bad if you used a camera with more dynamic range. For instance an D750 would probably work much better but then you wouldn’t be able to use this fantastic new lens either.
mpgxsvcd: I have one simple question. Why did the Canon 70D receive a MUCH higher score(83 vs. 81) and the Gold award? What does the 70D do that the E-M5 MK II doesn’t?
If I picked up the 70D right now and shot it side by side with the E-M5 MK II what would the 70D be that much better for? Both cameras are still at a similar price point today and they are in the same category. So what makes the 70D so much better?
Is the issue that the 70D was rated against the competition of 2 years ago and the E-M5 MK II is rated against the competition of today? Shouldn't the ratings value always increase if the cameras are always getting better? Why are cameras like the A6000 and the E-M5 MK II rated lower than the 70D?
I still cannot fathom why I should choose a Canon 70D over an Olympus E-M5 MK II. If I purchased solely based on your conclusions and ratings then I could see no other option. Thankfully, I didn't wait for the review and bought the E-M5 MK II sight unseen. I don't regret it that one bit.
Both the 70D and E-M5 MK II are capable of being used for sports. In my opinion the E-M5 MK II would be the better choice with the right lenses. The 70D also needs the right lenses as well or you won’t see the full benefit of its fast AF.
I will put my E-M5 MK II and the Panasonic 35-100mm F2.8 lens up against a 70D and any lens in the equivalent price range or lower for any type of shooting. I am willing to bet that even in sports settings where the equivalent of 200mm in 35mm terms is appropriate the E-M5 MK II will exceed the capabilities of the 70D for both stills and video.
The area where the E-M5 MK II would fall off is where a long and fast telephoto lens is required. I am not too crazy about the M4/3s telephoto options right now. The upcoming 300mm F4.0 should remedy that though.
Also the new 7-14mm F2.8 looks like it could be the answer for ultra wide angle low light photos and videos that isn’t covered very well for m4/3s right now.
I have one simple question. Why did the Canon 70D receive a MUCH higher score(83 vs. 81) and the Gold award? What does the 70D do that the E-M5 MK II doesn’t?
mpgxsvcd: I have a GH3, GH4, LX100, and the E-M5 MK II. I love the video quality of the GH4 and I think the control layout of the LX100 is just brilliant. Even the GH3 has better video quality than the E-M5 MK II.
However, I still can’t put the E-M5 MK II down. The IBIS is just phenomenal especially for videos. I shoot all of my videos hand held and I have to do image stabilization in post processing to make them useable. With the E-M5 I don’t have to worry about shaky videos anymore.
The stills resolution is perfect for my needs and probably great for the majority of people. The colors are great and the AFC tracking is rock solid.
The High Resolution mode works great for product shots, architecture, and moon photos. That works just fine for my needs.
The E-M5 MK II is just simply a fun camera to use. However, it isn't easy to setup. The menu structure is effective but not really intuitive. You can spend hours trying to get the camera setup properly. That is probably its weakest point.
I am willing to bet that half of the things that will be in my setup guide have never been discussed here before. My guess is that if you haven’t spent hours setting this camera up then you are not using it to its fullest.
My setup guide should be out soon. It will explain how to get the most out of this camera. It has been delayed only because I wanted to make sure I had everything right and covered everything that needs to be covered. I am almost there now.
That lens looks great. However, the picture looks fairly noisy for ISO 400.