Schweikert: After reading comments, I ask, are you all looking at the same files I'm seeing?
I see absolutely nothing different between the 7D and the 7DII in raw all the way up to 12,800 ISO (other than the 2 megapixel bump). Noise looks identical.
That's poor considering the years between these two cameras.
Sure, jpegs look different, 7DII is improved. But that seems pretty sad to be the only noticeable visual improvement.
I owned the 7D and used it quite a bit for stills and video in daily client work. High ISO stills were frustrating. I see nothing improved in the 7DII for raw work.
Fewer and fewer people are printing now. Most people view their pictures on a 1080p monitor.
Set it to ISO 6400 with the low light scene selected. Then compare the “Left side” of the Honey Ridge Farms bottle label for the MKII to the MKI. That is the darkest part of the scene that I could find. The noise just seems to drop off significantly in the MKII picture and not in the MKI picture in this very dark region.
If you compare the brighter right side of the bottle you will see both images are swamped in almost the same level of noise. This subtle distinction (Left side vs. Right side) is very interesting. It could be that they really have improved the dark shadow noise or it could just be that they are clipping the blacks earlier than they should be.
The Sony A6000 with the kit lens is MUCH less than half the price of the Canon 7D MKII without any lenses. Why are we even comparing those two cameras? I can understand comparing cameras that are 10% or even 20% apart.
The Canon 7D MKII is almost 170% more expensive than the A6000. I know that price isn’t the driving factor for everyone. However, this price difference is ridiculous and I haven’t even talked about the size difference yet.
From the looks of the low light shadow noise in the RAW files it really looks like the 7D MKII is leaps and bounds better than the 7D MKI. However, the noise in the shadow detail seems to abruptly stop. There is a normal amount of noise in the dim parts of the scene. However, the noise just disappears in the truly dark shadows.
That makes me wonder if they are just clipping the noise in the darkest shadows. This makes your noise response look great but it absolutely crushes your dynamic range.
These sample images are promising. However, I really want to see the dynamic range charts to find out if they are cheating or not. For now I will give a Golf Clap to Canon and reserve the outright cheers for when I see the dynamic range charts.
Look at the Balsamic Bottle at ISO 3200-12800 RAW files. The noise in the shadows of the 7D MKII image is outstanding.
I am usually the first one to criticize Canon. However, this time their RAW files have impressed me at the higher ISOs. Finally some good news for Canon. I like it.
MediaDigitalVideo: I want this under my X-mas tree.Canon is playing Santa Claus again.
I would have wanted this under my tree fpur years ago.
Canon seems to be oblivious to what there competition is doing these days.
mpgxsvcd: This is a great lens crippled by 4 year old technology.
I agree. It may be a brand new processor but it uses 4 year old technology.
How do they rate battery life for cameras that don't have a flash?
The processor is the old technology. The frame rates for RAW burst shooting is pathetic.
This is a great lens crippled by 4 year old technology.
If you compare the G7x to the G1X II you should also compare it to the Panasonic LX100.
It is clear from this article that Dpreview does not respect Canon anymore. There were some pretty snide remarks in the article.
After reading this article I get the feeling that Dpreview isn’t too worried about appeasing Canon. They definitely didn’t pull any punches in this article. This was a good thorough assessment of this camera.
It isn’t a bad camera. However, the Sony and Panasonic offerings are truly great cameras.
According to Canon "They have a better sensor than this".
The astronomy community would be very interested in this sensor.
I used a 1.3 Megapixel camera in 1999 and loved it. I could definitely still do ok with a less than 2 megapixel camera today if it could see in the dark.
cgarrard: Check out all the armchair QB's below. :)
No I am going to show you how to use the LX100 properly to take better pictures and videos than this person could take with the G1X. I will show how to properly utilize the aperture on a small sensor camera.
Considering the G1X costs about the same and has a larger sensor that sounds like a legitimate challenge to me.
I don't have the Canon G1X but I will have the Panasonic LX100 soon. I will show you what I mean in that LX100 review.