Mystery Gardener: 'Canon and Nikon executives both mentioned that their professional users are increasingly focused on video, and as such they're very aware that they’ll have to react to that need when planning the next generation of high-end cameras.'
Obviously Canikon and the others would like to sell you 4k video or at least the idea of 4k video. Not dissing 4k video or video in general but I seldom see anybody actually shooting video with their prosumer cameras. Even less do I hear someone who is actually shooting video with their prosumer cam wishing aloud it was 4k video :-)
I know plenty of local professionals who shoot video with their DSLRs. I went to an AV convention in Las Vegas last June, and the company hired to do all of the video recording for the forums & meetings used nothing but 5D's and 7D's. Certain angle shots in Showtime's 'Dexter' were captured on Nikon DSLRs.
Rank amateurs & prosumers may never use the video functions on a DSLR, but pros do all the time.
I don't have much to add, but here's what I agree with:-Few people upgrade as often as camera manufacturers think they do.-Most ILC owners only have a few lenses, and they're not likely to buy more over time.-We've reached the age of 'good enough' photography where sales have plateaued & most consumers have the camera they'll need for the next several years, even if it's only their smartphone. New equipment is purchased only when old equipment is retired.-Iterative camera releases are mostly in vain, and hardly anyone in the industry is being innovative.-Compacts are a mostly dead market.-Mirrorless cameras should be having more penetration, but, as mentioned above, they won't really take off until DSLR users retire their old equipment & realize the advantages of mirrorless (though I still feel mirrorless has a little ways to go before the category as a whole is a suitable replacement for DSLRs).-Pros will buy the equipment they need, but they're the exception, not the norm.
I'm sure I don't speak for the average American consumer, but having owned m4/3 cameras & lenses before trading it all in for a DSLR, I can say there's more to it than 'the camera looks the part'. With the exception of m4/3, few mirrorless systems have a lens catalog on par with most DSLR cameras. This is to be expected with the age of most mirrorless systems, but it does give one pause before investing. The main advantage I saw in mirrorless was compactness, but that gets thrown out the instant most zoom or telephoto lenses come into play, or in the case of some of the particularly large, bulky camera models that have been released lately. There's also the value proposition. For example, I see more value & versatility in a 50mm f/1.4 or f/1.8 lens for a full-frame or an APS-C DSLR than most available mirrorless equivalents. I also don't see value in most mirrorless cameras with similar asking prices of DSLR's that don't deliver at least the same image quality. There, a logical answer.
G3User: What a joke, all these cameras with no view finders. You may as well be holding up a cell phone with your head tilted way back and barley seeing the screen in bright sunlight. This is pathetic. This is the continued dumbing down of photography.
Let me know the last time you were able to see through a OVF tilted in any direction except for directly parallel to your face & still have any idea of what you were shooting.
Your rambling makes no sense.
whyamihere: Dear Nikon,
Maybe next year's model can feature such novel updates as, "Has an ISO button."
Just a thought.
Dyun27 & Arrr: Considering every other entry-level DSLR from Canon, Pentax, and Sony, has an ISO button (usually dedicated, easily found with your eye to the viewfinder, and not elsewhere on some odd corner of the camera combined with some other random function), I don't see why I'd have to pay nearly twice as much for a better body just to gain a common camera function. There's nothing 'advanced' about an ISO button.
whyamihere: Dear Olympus,
Remind me again: Why am I paying $1400 for the image performance of a 3+ year old APS-C camera? ('Portability' isn't really an excuse. Don't forget, you are in a joint venture with Sony, a purveyor of tiny APS-C M-ILC cameras.)
Everyone Confused By Your Price Tag (which should be just about everyone)
Macx: I guess? That might be a sale if you're heavily invested in older 4/3 gear. Otherwise, no.Chris96326: I'm just pointing out that Oly is late to the party in terms of image quality. Sony does have some laughably bad lenses. (And I've owned both, too. It's like we're connected... maybe we're twins :D )Mpgxsvcd: Nobody knows why Canon kept the same 18mp sensor for 4 years, aside from Canon. Also: Proof? (And don't give me any of that DxOMark BS.)Boissez: First, NEX 6 has phase detection, last I checked. Which means the rationale is: Weather sealing + mag alloy body = $500+ more? Uh, no.Photomonkey: ...You sure about that? Aside from Canon and maybe Pentax, maybe, everyone else has moved on to better sensors. See above about my feelings on 'better build quality' for what is ultimately still a big, bulky MFT camera that negates all of the advantages of the MFT system. Also, try pretending for a second that I might actually have some experience in photography.
PhotoPoet: Using a Sony RX 100, Nikon D7000 and of course iPhone5. I think I will pass. I am even with all the reading I am doing still confused as to "why" I want to switch. For me the D7000 (any DSLR) is speed. I will have to read a bit more to see if these four thirds cameras perform in such as way as to dump my D7000. Any one that is a user of this equipment, not just a "mine is bigger so its better" shooter, feel free to provide insight
Kimchiflower: You sure about that?
I used to own a GX1 (same sensor as G3) and a couple of primes and zooms (some of the same lenses you are using), and I just bought a Nikon D7000 and a couple of primes. There's plenty of difference, even if you're not pixel peeping.
Perhaps you're not using your camera or photo editing software correctly. Either that or you're exhibiting what psychologists call 'compensation bias' in order to justify your purchasing decision.
Either way, at least at an empirical level, I'd disagree with what you said with the exception of the point about portability. Mind you, I'm using the same bag as I was with my MFT gear for my Nikon DSLR with plenty of room to spare.
As an artist of different mediums:
If you see no artistic value in these images, then you are not truly an artist.
If you consider yourself an artist but still feel they have no value, then I suggest broadening your narrow-minded definition of art to include just about anything and everything, including these photos.
If you have taken photos like these and deleted them, then they were simply not appealing to you. Artistic expression is an extension of emotion. Always has been, always will be. You can't hate on someone for finding an emotional quality that resonates with them in these photos.
If you see these photos and don't like them but are still willing to call them pieces of art, that is understandable. I see art all the time that I don't like or don't understand, but I never tell someone that it's not art.
Grumble all you like about how how someone may have achieved popularity with these photos. Popularity is usually not the goal of most artists. Expression is.
Central Fla: Does this take into account that the lenses are heavier than most and each time they are rented they have to be shipped through the dreaded 3. I cringe having to ship my stuff once let alone a hundred times and that does not even take into consideration the "rental car" mentality of the customers. The big 3 shippers in the U.S. are terrible, and the fact that a heavy lens last 100 weeks is a testimant to their build.
If you read the last third of this article, you would know that they already considered weight as a possible factor. The significantly heavier telephoto primes aren't repaired nearly as often.
I've rented from Lens Rentals, and their packaging is well padded enough that even the worst US shipper would have to go out of their way to damage the contents.
A well-reasoned article that promotes dedicated photojournalists over reporters armed with iPhones published on the website of a news organization that fired several dedicated photojournalists in 2011 in favor of unpaid amateur iReporters armed with iPhones.
Oh, irony, you sweet, cruel monster.
whyamihere: Dear Nikon:
Wrong camera system.
Marike6: Yes, unpopular. Maybe not Canon EOS M unpopular, but, "Eh, maybe if it went on clearance," unpopular. Amazon's metrics aren't exactly a gold standard for tracking sales figures, especially here in the US. Never mind the fact that MILC make up less than 25% of all ILC camera sales, so even if the Nikon 1 system cameras rank in the top 5, all they can really claim is to be one of the slightly taller children in the kindergarten class.
Marike6, AnHund: You should probably read the preceding 170+ replies prior to mine. I don't see a lot of people excited to pay $900 for a lens that only works with an unpopular camera system. There's also little doubt there's a larger market for an 85mm f/1.2 for DX or FX cameras than there is for a 86mm f/3.2 (eqiv.) for the CX format.
If I were to make a minor edit to make you happy:
Just About Everyone
MrTritium: 420g with battery?! The Nex-6 and X-E1 weigh only 350g, and the nex-3n 269g. Is this camera made of LEAD?
I wonder if you missed the part of the spec sheet on the 2nd page where it says: Body Material - Metal.
It's not like this is the first PEN E-Px that weighed more than the competition.
Here's my perception of the problem:
Adobe has ostensibly decided that the Master Collection is no longer for people who don't make substantial amounts of money from their products. It's well established that most large companies will swallow the monthly cost and carry on. Smaller production houses will weigh their options and move forward accordingly.
Hobbyists & semi-pros are furious because the non-pro products are weak, and perpetual licenses make more sense due to the infrequent need to upgrade hardware/software to achieve results.
Education institutes are angry because Adobe has basically driven up costs substantially. Every institution with a design or architecture program just saw their projected software license costs explode.
When your business model for a product effectively sidelines the layman and the education sector, you're essentially left with big businesses. It may be good for improving revenue, but it certainly suffocates the potential for new customers.
Jim Evidon: Still no eye level finder either optical, EVF or hybrid. Therefore, not a serious camera for serious photographers. I'll stick to my OM-D and avoid the hand/arm shakes, thank you.
I've been photographing with a GX1 for over a year, and I've never had a problem with 'hand/arm shakes'. Nobody should, assuming you know how to hold a camera and can lift and hold a few pounds of mass. Never really felt the need to buy a viewfinder for the thing, even after I bought a decent Nikon and Canon DSLR.
If you think every 'serious camera' needs an eye-level viewfinder, that just means you're incapable of adapting to different circumstances. Good photographers make do with what they have.
Sergey Borachev: Sorry I read the preview up to this line
" - 16MP Four Thirds sensor (as used in GX1)"
and lost interest.
...And I read both of these comments and thought, "Since this is a GF camera - which is very obviously Panasonic's entry-level upgrade enticement camera - at what point did you think you were possibly getting a new sensor?"
Why would Panasonic upend their current lineup by introducing a superior sensor in a camera that is at the bottom of their product stack? If anything, you should be glad this has the GX1 sensor, which means the replacements for the G5 and GX1 should have better sensors than they do right now.
This upgrade pretty much went where I expected it to, especially after seeing the D5200 with the sensor and AF improvements (and little else). While I wasn't 100% certain that we'd see the 51-point AF system, I'm glad Nikon decided to take the D7000-series in that direction. I'm also quite interested to see the 1.3x crop in action - this would be a boon for wildlife/nature photographers if a 70-200mm could be converted into a 140-400mm with a few button clicks.
I'm also pretty happy they've pulled in design cues from the D600. I found the D600 to be quite comfortable to hold and easy to navigate, though I wish someone at Nikon would finally admit the placement of the ISO button is just silly. (At least put a raised braille bump in the middle or something to clearly indicate where it is without pulling your face away from the screen.)
I could honestly care less about the lack of GPS, Wi-Fi, or any of the video features. That's just me, though.