To continue loving video games, their programming while doing & improving my professional photography, punish the guilty, reward the good, educate kids and fight for all that is good. :-)
Dimit: Uncompressed 14 bit raw ???No thanks...no need for 100 MB files for something won't even notice in 90% of the cases..
Rishi Wins. Flawless Victory: Fatality. ;-)
Raist3d: Hi Adobe. How about giving the new Lightroom CC only features to the stand alone Lightroom?
To both of you: don't agree. Adobe used to update standard Lightroom with features like these in .xx releases. And there is zero reason technically speaking why this is should be difficult.
It's clear this is a push to make people go CC after vouching for no cloud LR support.
Hi Adobe. How about giving the new Lightroom CC only features to the stand alone Lightroom?
Pdf Ninja- sorry to quip but I don't think that's quite right. It's right if the sensor is up to the task but if it isn't, the extra bits go to waste. Pentax actually had an APS-C DSLR with a 21 bit DAC if I remember correctly. You bet they were not capturing 21+1 stops of DR.
ET2- that scientific paper is from an era of when 14-bit RAW just came about. That's years old. That's not the case anymore today.
Oh I am clever myself me thinks :-) But looks like I misread the comment because we are not on the same context. I thought you were meaning this as a response to him- on the Sony compressed raws... and how the OP prefers the compressed raws vs full 14-bit.
So if you mean that vs plain 12-bit, ok. But if you mean that vs Sony lossy compressed RAW then I don't agree.
I honestly think the OP was referring it in the context of a Sony lossy vs non lossy proposition though.
PS: Would be good if instead of saying "Rishi told me so" that there's a nice article on this- on the DR, bits and the Sony lossy format. Just a suggestion for what I think will answer some Q's and make for a nice article in dpreview. :-)
@Baney- no you don't. The lossy Sony compression is relative to a slice of the image. You still can get a wide DR for a full photo. I think you do lose something but it's far more specific than saying you miss 2ev wholesale and that would be on the cases of more extreme processing.
jon404: The Ricoh GR has far better ergonomics, a decent grip, and fits in your shirt pocket...
Price doesn't invalidate ergonomics.
topstuff: For some inexplicable reason, people like to attack Leica because of its prices, seemingly immune to the fact that the same people probably willingly pay "premium" prices for other items like cars and clothes, even though often it is the brand they are paying for. It is a strange irony.
This Leica looks like it stands up on its own merits. It really does seem to be a beautifully designed, high quality item that performs very well.
Leica haters have nothing to hate here. They aren't going to like that ! :)
28mm has its merits. It may not be my favorite but it's one of those key street focals too. Look up Garry Winogrand.
I think from what I see here, both have great ergonomics in the different directions they pursue them.
I have to say this looks really nice and glad Leica didn't price it $7k USD (I was betting on $5k USD).
I do have only one issue with it- banding on shadow recovery/high ISO. After having used a lot of cameras in the past that had banding, not having it is a god send for image quality in a lot of the shooting i do at night. I suppose ISO 6400 here is ok, but if I was going to plunk down $4k+ of cash, I would have expected this sensor wouldn't band no matter how hard pulled.
Most current Sony sensors usually don't.
Really love the looks of that build and usability though.
I like how so many find the price too high but don't seem to understand this lens is hand made in Germany with most likely well paid workers - and I bet hand tested quite a bit before it leaves the factory combined with Leicas legendary customer support. Its probably one of the best lenses ever made in this class.
This cost money. Doesn't mean you can't do great photography with cheaper lenses but I think there are reasons beyond "luxury brand" why this lens is pricey.
Pat Cullinan Jr: The sample photos need heavy post-processing.
Pat- I dunno. They shots look reasonable here on my display.
In what sense? They seem pretty good to me and they are JPEGS.
Papi61: I think that in 2015 many people would consider the absence of 4K video a deal breaker. Especially now that the Lumix G7 is out.
No, it's not. Sorry. I got an OMD EM5 MKII which has quite a state of the art m4/3rds sensor and a Fuji X-E1 which isn't 14-bit raw. There is a difference in color response and tone. I even shot side to side to help me decide if I was keeping that OMD or not. The whole "sub optimal array" is complete BS- use a proper raw converter to see it shine. And you get better sensitivity (more greens) for more B&W. The G7 has an AA filter anyway.
Video resolution & video - sure. G7 totally trashes the Fuji. But like I said, pros and cons. Some people care bout 4k video, some people don't and put priorities on stills.
Some yes. Others would consider the lack of better image quality, color and ISO performance for their still photography a deal breaker.
Along with usability. So I don't think it's that clear cut.
Oh and when I say color I am also talking about raw. Not all cameras have an easy to get color from raw either for many raw converters.
tedolf: Well, I will say it since no one else will. While I like retro styled cameras as much as anyone, it must be admitted that Fuji's film SLRs were never good looking cameras, unlike the Olympus OM models. So aping an ugly SLR does not make for an attractive MILC. Next, the very small Fuji bodies, e.g. XA-1, and this one make the lenses look huge.
The analog control system is nice though. This is Fuji's strong point.
I dunno, I like how this camera looks.
I think this camera will sell rather well. Great Fuji lenses and great color out of the box or even from raw are big selling points to me along with this metallic glowing chronic look Fuji seems to do in their shots.
Tharaphita: As a Nikon users im happy for Fuiji users and can only hope Nikon would actually offer new features via firmware. ! Way to go Fuiji
@Just a Photographer- how mature am I? :-) WTF. Are you reading what I said? I was saying that what he said is great and that I wish more people like him existed in the forums. Why are you misreading it? Seems like we are both on the same side.