To continue loving video games, their programming while doing & improving my professional photography, punish the guilty, reward the good, educate kids and fight for all that is good. :-)
micahmedia: f3.2 is only a hair away from 2.8. And that's still pretty shallow DOF for an 85mm equiv.
That said, it's a "pro" level price for a system that has been designed with a stubbornly amateur interface.
The people who can appreciate this lens have no body to enjoy it on. The V1/2 are crap for interface. Give us something with a real exposure mode dial and buttons to control things like ISO (who the hell cares about motion snapshot and smart photo selector?! What garbage! Dump them and give us real controls.)
I don' think I ever read in a more direct and concise manner the problem that I also find with the Nikon 1 system. Congrats, well put, though I can understand Nikon trying something new with the smart photo selector, it's just that everything else basic suffered so badly...
Adrian Van: I would advise to go to Robin Wong blog and see his initial impressions after seeing this EP5 camera in person and his first review on it. Also he says the VF4 is a fine viewer and large for a reason for the same reason the FF cameras have bright large viewfinders for people to work better (except this is an EVF instead of OVF) The colours match between viewfinder and LCD. Both of them are more colour accurate than previous cameras including the EM5's EVF. Although large, the VF4 is superior to the EVF in EM5. I would imagine that the next EM6 will get the bit more improved rear LCD in next upgrade, but right now it is here in EP5. See Robin Wong's blog.
Of course how important more accurate colour is in EVF and LCD is relative and depends on the photographer's needs as both are usable. The image captured would be similar with same sensor.
@olypan - I have looked up. If you look carefully, I do give him credit for the good, I just don't think he is not biased. So to you, unless I say nothing but all positives for him- and I do agree he does have his positives, then I am a bad bad person.
I have seen his photography, you don't have to tell me what he has and hasn't. I have my own talent too after all. The issue is not whether he is talented or not. The issue is that everything he writes is all positive towards the brand.
You say he has integrity and so do I. If I didn't, I would not credit him on the good, don't you think? But nothing but gloriously positive words for the Olympus brand will do either right?
Peiasdf: A well put together camera but raises the question why is it the same price as X-E1 yet doesn't come with EVF. Fuji is going for the premium market and have the fast lens lineup to back it up. Very few m4/3 lenses are as fast and as well put together as X lenses yet Olympus feel they should be more premium than Fuji.
Even compares with E-P5's predecessor E-P3, E-P5 is $100 more and without a kit lens. I mentioned in another comment that E-P3 was already overpriced compares with the existing E-PL2 and co-announced E-PL3. Olympus just outdone itself again. The most expensive system camera outside of Leica.
@historianx- you obviously have not used the Fuji xmount lenses then. If at least you were talking about Olympus 4/3rds SHG lenses...
Raist3d: If this camera went for real nice ergonomics, got rid of the silly wheel in the back which dubs as a four-button controller, and Olympus pushed mecanical dials like shutter speed, etc. it would be great.
But as it is, it looks real promising from the front and real disappointing from the back (again, talking specifically ergonomics and faux-retro looks).
On a side note: I commend them for pushing the shutter speed to 1/8000th and flash sync to 1/320th.
Update: oh I see they really have no wheel controller. Step forward then. Still think they are over thinking the interface, but at least no dial wheel with the four buttons. I rather would have preferred to see four buttons there though.
@Manuel- I think my original post with the update is quite clear. Don't try to grasp at straws because I had some spelling issues writing on a reply to you. The point that I made it's quite clear.
As for that - " For example the Sony rx1 has it but at least the controls are stiff enough I elp avoid weir tact and changes." -> For example, the Sony RX1 has it but at least the congtrols are stiff enough to help avoid the weird tactile feel and changes.
Having that sentence or not, you had all the information to what I said. Don't grasp at straws.
alatchin: 1/8000 of a sec, 1/320 sync speed, new smaller AF point, dual controls, tilt screen, WiFi, direct my mode access, greater flexibility with control setup, ISO 100 (even with a bit of highlight clipping), improved IBIS functionality...
I mean with all the whiners here you would think this was a paperweight.
In terms of price, the $1449 for the kit is a good deal, you get a great prime lens and superb EVF (which you can use on any older PEN models you have). In a few months it will be available for $100, a year later about $200 off.
Question is, do you need anything on that list right now, I can see three that would benefit me easily, 1/8000, 1/320 and smaller AF point would have an impact.
@alatchin- the support for Xtrans is no longer poor from RAW converters.
Every single Robing Wong impressions of an Olympus Camera since the E-5 is pretty much gloriously positive. I think it's great to get some ideas on the highlights, and I think it's cool he shows some real world photographs, but some material should be taken with some trucks of salt.
The issue is not whether the VF4 is great or not- but if the camera is small and we are shooting for small here, then having a big VF 4 cuts on portability when using it. I think it's fair to point out that the VF 4 is great as well as point out the issue with portability for those looking for small.
Jim Evidon: $1000 for the E-P5 body at Adorama plus the expense of the EVF. So it has focus peaking (in B&W only). While it appears to be cosmetically a good looking camera, tell me why I should prefer it over the OM-D which has an excellent EVF and focus peaking using the key line filter selection under Art Filters? Adorama, B&H and others are currently selling the OM-D body for just under $1000. The E-P5 is cute, but no cigar as the saying goes. I'll keep my OM-D.
And why should you prefer it over your omd-5 ? You think cameras should be upgraded on a yearly basis?
Sergey Borachev: The only problem in an otherwise perfect little camera is the lack of a built-in EVF.
I meant fuji did it with the x-e1
@OLi4D - fuji didn't it with the x-e1 and that's aps cAnd check the camera sizes if you think the x-e1 isn't small
@Marike- By "silly wheel" I mean the wheel that also acts like a cross-button pad. The fuji x20, x100s do it. Olympus pens have usually done it. Canon I think was the one who started it and I call it "the power shot wheelOf death". Basically its word to have to touch a button while touching the wheel- I have has cameras change a little because by touching the button the wheel moved
Different cameras are better or worse here. For example the Sony rx1 has it but at least the controls are stiff enough I elp avoid weir tact and changes. I am glad to see that Olympus actually didnt make it a wheel like I erroneously thought at first (hence my update)
Neither the Pentax q or mx1 do it which I think is also great.
@manuel- did you bother reading my update?
I mean the usual accursed dial that also has fourButtons on top. The other lens have it and its horrible. Glad olympus didn't do it here.
If this camera went for real nice ergonomics, got rid of the silly wheel in the back which dubs as a four-button controller, and Olympus pushed mecanical dials like shutter speed, etc. it would be great.
I really think dpreview ought to try Capture One 7 on this camera, because LightRoom's output is still too soft. And the Olympus model in the raw comparison does much better- not quite what one may expect from an AAless camera.
mumintroll: I can see clearly from samples, that Sigma DP1 is still a light year ahead in IQ.
Con. Sigma bad on high ISO.Pro. Sigma has no moire thanks to its' chip.
A light year ahead? The fuji seems rather close and that's at Sigma's best ISO's (100/200). Once you hit ISO 400, some overall advantage is getting lost. By ISO 1600 the Sigma is already looking pretty bad vs the competitors here.
Great IQ all depends where you need it. If you need High IQ in low light/mid to high ISO, the Sigma ain't it. If you shoot in daylight at ISO 100/200, the Sigma is great.
Scott Birch: Do tell us more, JustDavid, about the Q. Nobody else seems to want to.
Eh? Look around. There's several Q owners now. What he said is true.
DenWil: If ever there was a justification for outlawing unsanctioned photographs of individuals going about their private lives, this is it. What a schmuck. Hopefully one of his subjects is carrying and shoots in self defense.
@Damon- I won't necessarily comment on him being shot- but keep in mind this guy isn't just taking pictures, he's zapping people with high powered flashes. That's not just taking a picture in a public place.
Popetographer: So many ruffled feathers. I mean really folks, some of the comments here ...threatening to shoot him? Hm, tough people with guns can't handle having their photo taken. Now I hope even more that they pass universal background checks for all gun owners. Every time that we are on the street, in public, we are probably on a camera(s) at some point, Tergo's Project highlights this, get used to it or get rid of your gun.
What about the harassment of the flash? Photo in a public place- all-right. Zapped with high strobes?
Let's make it more complex: imagine someone who is photo sensitive or triggers an epileptic attack...
gl2k: RAW software is massively underrated !!!Back in the old film days it was the process of skilled film development that made the difference and today it is the skilled use of proper RAW software that makes the difference.That being said, it is the combination of sensor output + RAW sw that is responsible for the final image and therefore has to be judged.
To me what has always made the biggest difference by far is the photographer.
peevee1: "captured a picture of the main hall, then printed the photo onto a 8 x 4.5m plastic backdrop and completed the rest of the shoot in a swimming pool."
What would you do not to learn Photoshop...
@everyone saying CIG/photoshop it- what an ignorant thing to say. You would not get the same look, it would be incredibly difficult and you could also get accused of not really shooting with the camera you are saying you are shooting with and advertising!
Marty4650: Smart move putting the "14.0" in a red dot.
These folks understand marketing.