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DxOMark Mobile report: Samsung Galaxy S5

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DxOMark Mobile Report: Samsung Galaxy S5

Summary

The Galaxy S5 is Samsung's latest flagship smartphone and successor to the Galaxy S4. It comes with a 16MP BSI CMOS sensor, an F2.2 maximum aperture, 4K video capture and phase detection AF, but has to make do without an optical image stabilization system.

Android 4.4 is powered by the latest generation Qualcomm quad-core 2.5 GHz Snapdragon S801 processor and 2GB of RAM. The Super AMOLED screen measures 5.1 inches and comes with the same 1080p resolution as the S4. You can choose between 16GB or 32GB versions and storage can be expanded via a microSD slot. 

With a DxOMark Mobile score of 79 the Samsung Galaxy S5 shares the number one spot in the DxOMark smartphone rankings with the Sony Xperia Z2, placing itself in front of the Nokia 808 and the Sony Xperia Z1

The DxOMark team reports that the Galaxy S5 images show "good auto-exposure, pleasant, rich and realistic colors, good white balance, low noise levels in low light conditions and good sharpness and details in the center of the frame. " The testers found "almost no color fringing or ringing" and liked the "good image quality with flash."

On the downside there is "a noticeable loss of detail in low light conditions and non-uniform sharpness across the image field." The team also found the AF not to be always accurate in Auto Mode.

In video mode the Galaxy S5 produces the "best mobile video tested to date", with "good autofocus and good textures." On the downside there are "visible color non-uniformities in some light conditions."

Still Photography

Color, Exposure and Contrast

The DxOMark team found that the Samsung Galaxy S5 images show "good auto-exposure even in difficult outdoor situations, pleasant, rich and realistic colors in all light conditions and overall good white balance."

However, the testers also found that "in high dynamic range scenes, images can be slightly burnt out" and "with some indoor tungsten lighting a slight color shading can be noticed."

Overall DxOMark awarded the Samsung Galaxy S5 scores of:

  • 4.5 out of 5 for Exposure
  • 4.5 out of 5 for White Balance accuracy
  • 4.0 out of 5 for Color shading in low light*
  • 4.0 out of 5 for Color shading in bright light*
  • 3.0 out of 5 for Color Rendering in low light
  • 4.5 out of 5 for Color Rendering in bright light

*Color Shading is the nasty habit cellphone cameras have of rendering different areas of the frame with different color shifts, resulting in pictures with, for example, pinkish centers and greenish corners.

Noise and Details

DxOMark's engineers reported the that when shooting with the Galaxy S5 "a lot of detail is visible across the frame" with "low noise levels in low light conditions". The testers found the S5's noise and detail levels to be "better than the Galaxy S4". On the downside there is a "noticeable loss of details in low light conditions."

Texture Acutance

Texture acutance is a way of measuring the ability of a camera to capture images that preserve fine details, particularly the kind of low contrast detail that can be blurred away by noise reduction or obliterated by excessive sharpening (such as fine foliage, hair or fur).

Sharpness is an important part of the quality of an image, but while it's easy to look at an image and decide visually whether it's sharp or not, the objective measurement of sharpness is less straightforward.

An image can be defined as "sharp" if edges are sharp and if fine details are visible. In-camera processing means that it's possible to have one of these (sharp edges) but not the other (fine details). Conventional MTF measurements tell us how sharp an edge is, but have drawbacks when it comes to measuring fine detail preservation. Image processing algorithms can detect edges and enhance their sharpness, but they can also find homogeneous areas and smooth them out to reduce noise.

Texture acutance, on the other hand, can qualify sharpness in terms of preservation of fine details, without being fooled by edge enhancement algorithms.

A dead leaf pattern is designed to measure texture acutance. It's obtained by drawing random shapes that occlude each other in the plane, like dead leaves falling from a tree. The statistics of this model follow the distribution statistics in natural images.

In this example from a DSLR without edge enhancement, sharpness seems equal on edge and on texture. Many details are visible in the texture.

In this second example, edges have been digitally enhanced, and the edge looks over sharp, with visible processing halos ("ringing"). On the texture part, many details have disappeared.

At first sight, the images from these two cameras may appear equally sharp. A sharpness measurement on edges will indeed confirm this impression, and will even show that the second camera is sharper. But a closer examination of low contrasted textures shows that the first camera has better preservation of fine details than the second. The purpose of the texture acutance measurement is to qualify this difference.

Note: Acutance is a single value metric calculated from a MTF result. Acutance is used to assess the sharpness of an image as viewed by the human visual system, and is dependent on the viewing conditions (size of image, size of screen or print, viewing distance). Only the values of texture acutance are given here. The measurements are expressed as a percentage of the theoretical maximum for the chosen viewing condition. The higher the score, the more details can be seen in an image. 
 
For all DxOMark Mobile data presented on connect.dpreview.com we're only showing 8MP equivalent values, which gives us a level playing field for comparison between smartphone cameras with different megapixel values by normalizing all to 8MP (suitable for fairly large prints). DxOMark also offers this data for lower resolution use-cases (web and onscreen). For more information on DxOMark's testing methodology and acutance measurements please visit the website at www.dxomark.com.
In low light luminance texture acutance is a little lower under tungsten light than daylight but you the difference will be hardly noticeable in the image output. 
In terms of texture acutance under tungsten light, the Galaxy S5 lags slightly behind the best at low light levels but catches up in brighter conditions. 
Edge Acutance
Edge acutance is a measure of edge sharpness in images captured by the phone's camera. Again we're only looking at the most demanding of the three viewing conditions that DxOMark reports on - the 8MP equivalent.
In terms of edge acutance the Samsung Galaxy S5 is only beaten by Sony's Xperia Z2.
The Samsung Galaxy S5's ability to retain sharp edges is excellent across all light levels. 
Visual Noise

Visual noise is a value designed to assess the noise in an image as perceived by the human visual system, depending on the viewing condition (size of image, size of screen or print, viewing distance). The measurements have no units and can be simply viewed as the weighted average of noise standard deviation for each channel in the CIE L*a*b* color space. The lower the measurement, the less noise in the image.

Noise levels in daylight are low across all light levels.
Under tungsten light additional noise reduction kicks in in very low light and keeps noise levels down. 
Thanks to additional noise reduction in very low light the S5's noise levels measure lower than the competition at 20 lux. In brighter light the Samsung's performance is in line with its peers.  

Noise and Detail Perceptual scoring

DxOMark engineers don't just point camera phones at charts, they also take and analyze scores of real-world shots and score them accordingly. Their findings for the Samsung Galaxy S5  were:

Natural scene

  • Texture (bright light): 4.8 out of 5
  • Texture (low light): 3.0 out of 5
  • Noise (bright light): 4.0 out of 5
  • Noise (low light) 3.2 out of 5
Bright light sample shot. 
100% crop: good detail across the frame, but slightly worse than the predecessor Galaxy S4. 
Low light (20 Lux) studio shot.
100% crop: low noise levels and no chroma noise, improved over the Galaxy S4
100% crop: still some detail visible at low light levels 

Artifacts

Phone cameras, like entry-level compact cameras, tend to suffer from artifacts such as sharpening halos, color fringing, vignetting (shading) and distortion, which can have an impact on the visual appeal of the end result. DxOMark engineers measure and analyze a range of artifacts. Their findings after testing the Samsung Galaxy S5 are shown below:

  • Almost no color fringing.
  • Almost no ringing noticeable.
  • Sharpness varies across the frame

Perceptual scores

  • Sharpness 3.5 out of 5
  • Color fringing 4.5 out of 5

Measured findings

  • Ringing center 9.0%
  • Ringing corner 3.7%
  • Max geometric distortion -0.3%
  • Luminance shading 22.4%

Distortion and Chromatic Aberrations

The graph shows the magnification from center to edge (with the center normalized to 1). The Sony Galaxy S5 shows slight pincushion distortion, which you are not going to notice in normal photography.
The Samsung Galaxy S5 shows very few lateral chromatic aberrations which won't be noticeable in the images. 

Autofocus

DxOMark also tests autofocus accuracy and reliability by measuring how much the acutance - or sharpness - varies with each shot over a series of 30 exposures (defocusing then using the autofocus for each one). As with other tests these results are dependent on the viewing conditions (a little bit out of focus matters a lot less with a small web image than a full 8MP shot viewed at 100%). Using the 8MP equivalent setting, the Samsung is doing very well in bright light but loses some of its edge in lower light conditions. The overall score is 80/100 in bright light and 59/100 in low light.

Pros: 

  • Autofocus is fast and accurate in trigger mode
  • Very little overshooting
  • Good scene change detection
  • Automatic face detection

Cons: 

  • Autofocus isn't accurate in auto mode
  • Autofocus slightly less repeatable in low light than in bright light
  • In low-light lab conditions the camera occasionally refocuses during capture, resulting in partially blurry pictures
Autofocus repeatability - average acutance difference with best focus: low light 11.92%, bright light 7.88%

Flash

DxOMark scored the Samsung Galaxy S5 82/100 overall for its flash performance which is three points less than the Sony Xperia Z2.

Pros: 

  • Good detail preservation, accurate white balance and color 

Cons:

  • Some white balance errors in mixed light 
  • No red eye correction

Overall DxOMark Mobile Score for Photo: 79 / 100


Video Capture

DxOMark engineers put phone cameras through a similarly grueling set of video tests, and you can read their full findings on the DxOMark website here. Bottom line: DxOMark found the Samsung Galaxy S5's overall video performance to be the best of all devices tested so far, with nice textures and good AF. Only in some light conditions the Samsung can struggle with color reproduction. 

Pros: 

  • Best mobile video tested to date
  • Well balanced video mode, without any major flaws
  • Good autofocus
  • Good texture

Cons: 

  • Visible color non-uniformities in some light conditions

Overall DxOMark Mobile Score for Video: 79 / 100

DXOMark Mobile Score
79

DXOMark Image Quality Assessment

The Samsung Galaxy S5 improves on the performance of its predecessor, the Galaxy S4, and shares the number one spot in the DxOMark smartphone ranking with the Sony Xperia Z2

The DxOMark testers found  the Galaxy S5 images to have good exposure and pleasant and realistic colors. White balance is reliable with low noise levels in low light and decent detail. The testers were also pleased by the lack of color fringing and the flash performance. 

On the downside there is a noticeable loss of detail in low light and some softness toward the edges of the frame. The team also found the AF not to always be accurate in Auto Mode.

In video mode the Galaxy S5 produces the best footage of all devices tested so far, with good AF performance and nice textures. In some light conditions the S5 can struggle with color reproduction though. For a more detailed analysis, visit www.dxomark.com.

Photo Mobile Score 79   Video Mobile Score 79
Exposure and Contrast 88   Exposure and Contrast 87
Color 82   Color 84
Autofocus 69   Autofocus 76
Texture 78   Texture 83
Noise 78   Noise 87
Photo Artifacts 83   Video Artifacts 87
Flash 82   Stabilization 55

  

Comments

Total comments: 79
Artpt
By Artpt (1 month ago)

So we bought this phone over the weekend, mainly for the video. I have to say the features on the S5 are a lot of fun....

1080 60p on a phone is remarkable...add to that underwater video in the pool (with initial hesitation) and you really have a versatile device.

Happy Father's Day in the US and to all who celebrate it abroad!

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Petrogel
By Petrogel (1 month ago)

Dxo is ranking Samsung S5 and Sony Xperia Z2 higher than any Nokia Lumia Gigapixel ?????
……. Poor Nokia fanboys…..

3 upvotes
Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (1 month ago)

Oh no, you again? :)

As I've explained many times, the Z2 scores were heavily influenced by the significantly better video scores. Otherwise, the Z2 produces WAAAY worse IQ than the 808.

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Petrogel
By Petrogel (1 month ago)

………… Poor Nokia Fanboy

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (1 month ago)

You still don't seem to want to argue...

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Petrogel
By Petrogel (1 month ago)

How someone can argue with a fanboy ?
…….. Poor Nokia Fanboy

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Petrogel
By Petrogel (1 month ago)

By the WAAAY this is the Samsung S5 article .

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (1 month ago)

"By the WAAAY this is the Samsung S5 article ."

It was YOU that started to mock "Nokia fanboys" in the OP...

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Petrogel
By Petrogel (1 month ago)

Dxo is ranking Samsung S5 and Sony Xperia Z2 higher than any Nokia Lumia Gigapixel ?????
……. Poor Nokia fanboys…..

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peevee1
By peevee1 (1 month ago)

Poor Petrogel, Samsung makes him work over weekend...

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Petrogel
By Petrogel (1 month ago)

Oh no !!! I never mix work and pleasure and making Nokia fanboys whining is entertaining !!!!!

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vv50
By vv50 (1 month ago)

menneisys, you've been doing this for two years, haven't you learned already? this isn't a discussion about phone cameras. this is a demonstration of how what a hypocrite would say. hypocrisis is from the word ὑπόκρισις, maybe some people do it better than others.

this would be like someone driving his range rover for one mile to get to the park, then proudly insist to bicycle owners that other brands are better, while obnoxiously proclaiming that he will never consider seriously using one himself. people should just silently recognize that while one is always free to shout and flail his arms, his opinions were always worthless and that by leaving him alone, someday there will be a very tiny chance he'll grow up.

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Petrogel
By Petrogel (1 month ago)

So, you are posting through MY thread to tell menneisys to leave me alone (something you could do via private message) ,... just in case i might grow up ? …. (So hypocritical) .... but on the other hand, it is YOU the one who's giving lessons about hypocrisy with ridiculous examples about Range Rovers, bicycles and parks?
Of course !!!! It is your feeling of inferiority once again, well it's you who's "always free to shout and flail his arms" …..and it is you again who says that "by leaving him alone, someday there will be a very tiny chance he'll grow up." is this your idea of leaving someone alone ? by recommending his commends ? No, this is your need to be noticed.
Thankfully i'm glad you do find my opinion worthless, sometimes it is flattering to be called "worthless" by an IDIOT

Idiot as a word derived from the Greek ἰδιώτης, idiōtēs ("person lacking professional skill",

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vv50
By vv50 (1 month ago)

you see menneisyys, it is a sure sign of a lack of education when someone comments on a thread without even mentioning phone cameras, it's so awkward.

1 upvote
Petrogel
By Petrogel (1 month ago)

Dude, you give a new meaning to the word Idiot , you have nothing to say but you keep commenting, as your overweening ego can not accept your own idiocy ….. you are the HYPER ...…. the ABSOLUTE

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vv50
By vv50 (1 month ago)

you get my point menneisyys? trolls are addicted to attention, they only want to provoke, you're not going to win them to your side. the best thing is to keep quiet and let them have the last comment.

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Petrogel
By Petrogel (1 month ago)

You're commenting my comments by calling me hypocrite , you call my opinion worthless, you ask others not to answer my comments and to keep quiet , when the same time you can't stop typing ….. and i'm the one who's provoking ????

Oh…poor vv you are not an ordinary Idiot you are a category on your own.

How would you like to be invited as my guest on a dinner party ?
Every now and then, we (some friends) gather for a "special" dinner party where you could talk about yourself,
i'm sure you'll like it and you can be my -François Pignon- , you will be the most impressive.

P.S Idiots always ask for more, just like yourself !!!!!!

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vlad0
By vlad0 (1 month ago)

The video is the only thing I am really impressed with..

The rest of the camera IQ is really nothing special to be honest. Just look at some "real world" samples.. it competes with the 1520 and the Z2, but the 1020 and especially the 808 are out of reach.

And.. how are DXO conducting their flash test ? There is no way the LED flashes are better than the xenons..

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jkokich
By jkokich (1 month ago)

4K from what has to be a tiny sensor? I have a serious question: If a full frame sensor is supposed to be superior for image quality and video (feel free to correct any of these assumptions), why do many professional video cameras have smaller sensors?

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (1 month ago)

Bigger sensors (and there are Canon FF video cameras) mean that the lenses cost a lot more and the box is bigger.

Also with a high def camera one only needs a 2MP sensor, so pixel density doesn't need to be as great on that smaller video camera sensor. Whereas a still camera with a sensor of the same dimensions would have many more pixels, so a much greater pixel density.

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Lars Rehm
By Lars Rehm (1 month ago)

If you want the cinema-look with limited DoF there is no way around a large sensor. If t's only about image quality, noise etc at typical video resolutions a lot of smaller sensor can do a decent job as well.

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jkokich
By jkokich (1 month ago)

Thanks! I've always wondered.

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MistyFog
By MistyFog (1 month ago)

Pretty much any direct camera comparison involving the S5, Z2 and 1020 have shown that the 1020 wins by a significant margin.

To fix a particular result, DxOMark understands that they must evaluate each product separately and avoid any direct comparison. That way, they can pretty much assign any score in any way they like.

I must tip my hat off for DxOMark. Incredible PR skills in promoting inferior products. Amazing ability to play with words with some fancy charts and terminologies thrown in. Would have done very well in politics indeed.

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webrunner5
By webrunner5 (1 month ago)

The 1020 is an impressive cellphone camera wise. But its new lens design compared to the old 808 is just terrible on the edges. They have went backwards, but I can see why because people where probably turned off by the bulge on the back of the 808. Not that the 1020 is slim!

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vlad0
By vlad0 (1 month ago)

^ You need room for good optics.. its just the way it is and there is not way around it. The 808 has the best optical solution put in a smartphone to date.

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ageha
By ageha (1 month ago)

You have to love the band-aid aesthetics.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (1 month ago)

Bet that makes the case less slippery.

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ageha
By ageha (1 month ago)

Did you touch it? I can't agree on that.

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ageha
By ageha (1 month ago)

Nice in-depth test!

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Carnivore99
By Carnivore99 (1 month ago)

The camera test looks good but the cheapness of the materials in this Galaxy S5 make it a hard phone to get excited about. Also, the lens must be susceptible to scratching, the way it protrudes from the back of the case.

I'd love to see the LG G3 tested next. We're still waiting to see a flagship Android phone to hit it out of the park.

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Michael Ma
By Michael Ma (1 month ago)

Metal is heavier, more slippery, and scratches more easily. NFC doesn't work through metal. The back becomes a pain to remove which will be a negative because one of the best feature of any Samsung Galaxy device is the ability to go from 0% battery to 100% in a matter of seconds by swapping the battery.

Is losing all that worth the little if any improvements you get with metal because it feels a little bit more solid in the hand? You might as well get a nice thick plastic/rubber case to protect it since you're more likely to drop it due to it's extra weight, slipperiness, and susceptibility to scratches.

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Carnivore99
By Carnivore99 (1 month ago)

Oh I agree with nearly all of this but I've seen plenty of products made from plastics that feel a lot more premium than this phone. When spending this much (especially at non-contract pricing), I don't think it should feel like such a cheap quality product.

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Michael Ma
By Michael Ma (1 month ago)

I don't agree that the Samsung devices such as the Note 3 and S5 feel "cheap" in any way. I think the average reviewer would rate the new Samsung devices around 4.0-4.5 out of 5 for build quality. And 5 out of 5 for iPhone 5. "Cheap" would have to be something like in the 3.0 range, and those phones do exist.

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MistyFog
By MistyFog (1 month ago)

@Michael Ma

Yea, between scale ranging between 4.0 - 5.0, I would agree the Samsung devices score between 4.0-4.5. I can't think of any other manufacturers that share the same "mediocre" category.

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MikeinKennesaw
By MikeinKennesaw (1 month ago)

Calling the S5 "cheap" is just silly. Sure it has a plastic back, but every other component is state-of-the-art.

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MistyFog
By MistyFog (1 month ago)

@MikeinKennesaw "every other component is state-of-the-art".

Samsung's spamming the ad space must have rubbed off on you. The finger print sensor is state-of-the-art, indeed.

My favourite state-of-the-art component is the S5's dimpled design. Apparently, research have shown that the air pockets within the dimples help prevent the phone from overheating. As a side benefit, it also helps the phone float on water. OK, I made that up ;)

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sderdiarian
By sderdiarian (1 month ago)

"I'd love to see the LG G3 tested next. We're still waiting to see a flagship Android phone to hit it out of the park."

I'm not counting on the G3 for this given its smaller sensor (1/3" vs. 1/2.6") and 13 MP vs. 16 MP, but who knows, maybe they've worked some magic.

Both of these phones may now have nudged past the size I'm willing to accept and, in the S5's case, for no apparent reason (screen is only 5.1" vs. the smaller S4's 5").

Apple may be reading the market right: smaller, lighter, slimmer yet retain a decent sized very sharp screen (4.7") and improved camera. I'm fence sitting now.

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EagleMason
By EagleMason (1 month ago)

The all htc phones like a metal can heats up like a water heater while we do alot of heavy tasks on it..
There is always a reason behind a world class company for not hearing the customer's needs.. they always know what customers want.. still when they dont respond to it. Means there is some lack or disadvantage behind that need..
There are alot more reasons alongwith overheating.. and so samsung chooses rather ways to make it premium with leather options etc..
Htc phones are good too. But there financial managment to hit the markets are very poor and foolish side.. which should be taken care of ..
LG is very great.. it can be the competitor of samsung.. but atlast Samsung has something which others dont have and so it is the best in markets bases..
NOKIA,SONY,APPLE.. show different ads showing they have this and that technology in there cameras.. but really.. if you have a technical knowledge in camera settings.. just have all the companies devices and take a perfect snap.. and see what you get.. the pic taken in samsung will be surely of more detail.. and alot more.. inshort samsung dont need any advertisments to show off there capable hardwares.. now think what if samsung takes out there own camera unique technology.. than how it will result among others ! If they can get this much better without any camera technology..

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beavertown
By beavertown (1 month ago)

Samsung should join serious DSLR world since they are able to make great sensor. Chips and later lenses.

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Zeisschen
By Zeisschen (1 month ago)

What is "serious" in a DSLR? DSLR is a transition "technology" from the analogue to the digital photography era. Samsung joined in digital era, so they will forever be mirrorless and still be serious about it, at least more serious than Canikon.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (1 month ago)

"Samsung should join serious DSLR world since they are able to make great sensor. Chips and later lenses."

They _are_ in there. And their NX lens lineup is pretty great. Their ILC's aren't bad either.

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Lars Rehm
By Lars Rehm (1 month ago)

They actually made DSLRs, back in the day, working together with Pentax. Those cameras' Achilles Heel was the Samsung sensor though.

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ageha
By ageha (1 month ago)

They only made the sensors and put their stickers on the bodies and lenses.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (1 month ago)

ageha:

Some of those Samsung SLR lenses had the name Schneider on them and only came with the Samsung variation of those DSLR bodies.

Lars Rehm:

Isn't that the same 14.6MP sensor from the NX100? And that's an excellent sensor through ISO 2000, so it's a bit of myth that the sensor in PentaxSam SLRs was a problem. (Could be the processing computer though.)

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Lars Rehm
By Lars Rehm (1 month ago)

I just remember that the Pentax K200 produced much better images than the nominally better K20d which used the same sensor as the Samsung GX20.

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Peiasdf
By Peiasdf (1 month ago)

Note 4 is going to use 16mp SONY sensor with OIS so how good is Samsung's ISCELL sensor?

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (1 month ago)

Lars Rehm,

But that says it wasn't the Samsung sensor that was the problem then--since both SLRs used the same sensor.

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ageha
By ageha (1 month ago)

All Samsung branded K-mount lenses had the Schneider sticker on them. Still, they were exactly the same as their Pentax siblings.

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Lars Rehm
By Lars Rehm (1 month ago)

@howaboutraw, correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty certain the K20D used the 15MP Samsung sensor and the K200 the 12MP Sony that was used in many cameras including the Nikon D300.

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ageha
By ageha (1 month ago)

Sony never made a 12MP APS-C CCD sensor to begin with. They only ever produced 10.2MP and 14.2MP CCD sensors.

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Lars Rehm
By Lars Rehm (1 month ago)

it wasn't an APS-C CCD but a CMOS and it was indeed made by Sony and used in many cameras. I do kind of know because I wrote the reviews of several of them here on dprevivew.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (1 month ago)

Lars Rehm:

Huh? Right, I'm only talking about the 14.6MP Samsung sensor from the K20D/GX20.

These are the SLRs I'm referring:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentax_K20D

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (1 month ago)

ageha:

Oh, I thought they were separately made lenses--not made by Schneider, but approved, or something like that.

Most of the Schneider branded Samsung lenses for other systems have been excellent.

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Lars Rehm
By Lars Rehm (1 month ago)

ah, understand what you mean. The Samsung sensor was regarded as the one weakness of the K20D/GX20 though. It was a very nice camera and I spoke to more than one Pentax user who would have loved to see the K200's sensor in the K20D body, simply because the Sony sensor in the cheaper K200 was better than the Samsung sensor in the more expensive K20D.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (1 month ago)

Lars Rehm:

Okay, but then I'm pretty sure that's exactly the same 14.6MP sensor in the NX100 and that's an excellent sensor, so there's something else about the K20D/GX20 that's causing trouble--likely the processing computer.

That's the Sony sensor from the Nikon D300 right?

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sderdiarian
By sderdiarian (1 month ago)

Credit Samsung for boosting sensor size to 1/2.6" from the typical 1/3" (LG-G3, iPhone 5S, etc.); still short of the Sony Z2's 1/2.3" (same size as in generic P&S cameras), and way short of the Nokia 808's 1/1.1" .

It would also be informative were DxO to provide sensor data for cameras and smartphones in one chart, allowing one to more easily compare smartphones like the S5 to typical enthusiast compacts with 1/1.7" sensors. Same for optics, smartphone lenses vs. fast enthusiast compact zooms.

This would present a more balanced picture of their merits for buyers of either device.

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EDWARD ARTISTE
By EDWARD ARTISTE (1 month ago)

Oh rly?

Ive been so impressed with the camera on my Note 3 that its damn near replaced my g12. Took great shots of people, places, and things in japan. Af is quick, and i can shoot without any shutter noise or beeping by just pressing the screen.

So if this is better, that awesome. Go samsung.

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jimjim2111
By jimjim2111 (1 month ago)

I'm the same - my iph5 (second division compared to these latest cameraphones) has much the same IQ as my ixus 220, better sometimes cos it has a way bigger brain, and it has geotagging that works, and a panorama mode (Canon never did figure that one out), and the big screen. Maybe an excuse to get an rx100 or similar, or try a superzoom!

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Snikt228
By Snikt228 (1 month ago)

Maybe they could stop wasting time on the Galaxy S5 and actually test the A7 with some lenses

4 upvotes
ageha
By ageha (1 month ago)

People who buy the A7/R don't need tests.

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natna
By natna (1 month ago)

"Noise levels are well controlled in low-light, albeit then with a noticeable loss of detail."

hahahahahahahhaha

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thx1138
By thx1138 (1 month ago)

LOL.

Low light IQ is still embarrassing no matter how they sugar coat it.

3 upvotes
MistyFog
By MistyFog (1 month ago)

You got to read that sentence in conjunction with the following:

"Thanks to additional noise reduction in very low light the S5's noise levels measure lower than the competition at 20 lux."

Translation: To do well in lowlight a camera needs to employ noise reduction. The heavier the better. Loss of details don't matter. (My goodness, why haven't any other camera-makers thought of this before?)

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TrojMacReady
By TrojMacReady (1 month ago)

And anyone with half a brain realizes that you need to read those graphs in conjunction with the texture/detail graphs throughout varying light levels.

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Greynerd
By Greynerd (1 month ago)

i.e. give the water colour painting a good soak to fill in the gaps.

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EagleMason
By EagleMason (1 month ago)

Noise in the photo dosn' mean the detail of the photo.. so it is written there..
Noise are the dots like pattern around a photo you would see in dark areas in low light..

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mailman88
By mailman88 (1 month ago)

DXO speaks and everyone listens....Wrong
I'll take my Nokia 1020 over the S5 any day.

10 upvotes
mailman88
By mailman88 (1 month ago)

Can the S5 shoot a 2000ISO pic shot at night, and print it at 11x14. My Nokia 1020 can.....

5 upvotes
Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (1 month ago)

Obviously, as it lacks OIS, it just can't produce as good results as the 1020 in low light, handheld shots.

Samsung really should have shoehorned the OIS module they've announced in Oct/2013 in the S5...

3 upvotes
Juandante
By Juandante (1 month ago)

Can your Nokia shoot at more than 1 frame every 4 seconds ?
Can your Nokia shoot real time HDR ?
Can your Nokia autofocus in 0.3 seconds ?
Can you display your pictures on a beautifull 5" full HD screen ?
Can your Nokia manage 4K videos ?
Is your Nokia as complete and followed in camera apps ?
Nokia just make phones and fanb... Just follows.

5 upvotes
Mindprison
By Mindprison (1 month ago)

The camera on the S5 is decent for most people, but anyone that is at least a little serious about photography would pick the 1020.
Large sensor(more light and better dynamic range), OIS, control over shutter speed and focus, great audio recording and lossless zoom are much more important than some of the "features" the S5 offers, at least for someone that is more than casual photographer.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (1 month ago)

@Juandante:

Horses for courses. Nokia's top-end cameraphones excel in the following areas:

- full manual controls (all WP models) - tell me, can you manually focus the S5 / Z2? Can you explicitly set their shutter speed?

- OIS (92x, 1020, 1520)

- high-quality microphones (1520, 808)

- high IQ outdoors (particularly the 808) - show me another cameraphone with better landscape capabilities than those of the 808...

5 upvotes
MikeinKennesaw
By MikeinKennesaw (1 month ago)

"The camera on the S5 is decent for most people, but anyone that is at least a little serious about photography would pick a CAMERA."

FIXED

2 upvotes
MistyFog
By MistyFog (1 month ago)

@Juandante

Right, and those metrics are what DxO are evaluating the S5 on?

0 upvotes
EagleMason
By EagleMason (1 month ago)

Not enough and better compared to the 38MP they say.. let samsung make a larger sensor..if there lower sensor compete the highest sensors of great Nokia,than they can beat them too if they get a bit higher sensors.. even there new galaxy K.. would beat the 38MP in nearly many ways with wide apps and settings..
And there are many drawbacks in 38mp sensor too. Like there are many settings with which you want be able to take images at 38(41)Mp resolution.. where in a 16MP of S5. . There are no settings which would pull down there resolution.. at any settings and features.. you can have the full res pics..
Nokia 808 faced problems of taking snaps at just 8MP resolution from 38(41)mp resolution when you choose particular settings in camera.. camera should be capable to take pics with any settings at any resolution..
And thus to make things upto date and perfect.. samsung makes things slowly as possible.. but they are worth it.. and have aleast drawbacks..

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (1 month ago)

"
Nokia 808 faced problems of taking snaps at just 8MP resolution from 38(41)mp resolution when you choose particular settings in camera.. camera should be capable to take pics with any settings at any resolution.. "

Note that via jailbreaking (which is pretty easy and possible with all firmware versions) you can gain full access to the config files of the camera app, where you can easily configure the downsampling settings (the target resolution, JPEG quality etc.). You can even add a full 41 Mpixel mode using every single pixel on the 808 - that's what I've done. (The latter can be safely done as vignetting is minimal in these extreme new corners and the lens is super sharp everywhere.)

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (1 month ago)

"Not enough and better compared to the 38MP they say.. let samsung make a larger sensor.."

That's what we're ALL waiting for. Imagine a camera-centric high-end Android phone with a wideangle (28mm), bright, sharp, prime lens and a huge sensor (not smaller than 1/1.2"). That's something I'd purchase in a heartbeat (assuming it does deliver better IQ than the 808, obviously).

Hope Samsung makes such a phone some time and not just zooms that have to use small sensors (and, similarly, thin and, consequently, small-sensored primes in their non-zoom/"K camera" series.).

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Juandante
By Juandante (1 month ago)

One of the best camera phone, with the Z2 on the market today ! Waiting for the Galaxy K test !

1 upvote
ageha
By ageha (1 month ago)

Very nice! :)

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