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Apple debuts new iPad Air, iPad mini with Retina display

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The second generation iPad Mini has a 5MP camera and Retina display.

At its hotly anticipated press event today in San Francisco, Apple announced two new iPads. The iPad Air is Apple's thinnest yet while the iPad mini with Retina display offers faster computing and a better display in Apple's tiny tablet.

Aside from the iPads, today's announcement covered a lot of ground. Apple CEO Tim Cook started the event by revisiting the record breaking sales from the iPhone 5S and 5C last month, showing a video from the product's launch day. Cook noted that 64% of iPhone users have updated to the new iOS 7 operating system.

Cook took a shot at Microsoft's surface line by saying Apple's competition wants to turn PCs into tablets and tablets into PCs.

On the desktop side, Apple took the stage to release the details of Mac OSX Mavericks. Available for free today, the Mavericks update has software to improve the battery life and performance of Apple laptops and desktops made as early as 2007.

iPhoto, iMovie and Garage Band also saw updates for both iOS and OSX. All of the new iLife software is free with the purchase of new iOS or Mac devices.

Apple spoke directly to photographers and videographers when revealing the details of its new cylindrical Mac Pro. According to Apple, the improved processing power of the Mac Pro makes for fast 4K video editing and intensive photo editing of large images. Apple also announced a new MacBook Pro, and Mac Mini.

The iPad Air is thinner and faster than its predecessor, but the camera is the same.

iPads for processing, not photography

The second generation iPad mini and iPad Air took center stage an hour and 15 minutes into the event. Announcing that it recently sold its 170 millionth iPad, Cook bragged that the iPad is used four times more than any other device, despite the doubts at its launch three and a half years ago.

The iPad Air is 7.5mm thick and weighs only one pound — making it the claim of lightest full-sized tablet. Inside, it has the same A7 chip as the iPhone 5S. With improved graphics and 10 hours of battery life, the new iPad Air promises better performance than its predecessor.

Today's Apple announcements also saw a new iPad mini. The iPad mini with Retina display offers faster performance and higher screen resolution on the 7.9-inch tablet. Though smaller than the iPad Air, the iPad mini offers many of the same specs, matching the iPad Air's A7 chip and 10 hours of battery.

Both the iPad Air and the new iPad mini missed a chance to upgrade the primary camera hardware. Both tablets only offer a 5MP camera, the same as the iPad 4 with Retina display and the original iPad mini. While iPad photography may not be the most attractive hobby, it would still be nice to see Apple improve its tablets' imaging capabilities.

Apple does promise better photos out of both devices' front-facing cameras, claiming a new next-generation backside illumination sensor with larger pixels will make for better selfies, even in low light.

While Apple seems committed to its tablets' creative capabilities, it seems to be leaving the photography to other devices. Instead, the new iPads are focusing on processing power, battery life and wifi connectivity — all of which are important for post-capture editing and sharing of photos and videos.

Starting at $499 for 16GB of storage with wifi and $629 for 16GB with cellular, the iPad Air will ship on November 1st. It comes in "space gray"/black or silver/white. (No gold for this one.) The iPad 2 is still going to be available now $399.

The new iPad mini with Retina display will set you back $399 for the 16GB wifi model. It is only available in "space gray"/black or silver/white. Meanwhile, you can still get the original, 16GB wifi iPad mini for $299.

iPad Air key specifications

  • 9.7-inch display 2048 x 1536p resolution (264ppi)
  • 5 MP Camera
  • 1080p HD Video on rear-facing camera, 720p on front-facing camera
  • f/2.4 aperture
  • Face detection 
  • HDR
  • Lightning connector 
  • A7 chip with 64-bit architecture and M7 motion coprocessor
  • 16, 32, 64, and 128GB storage options

iPad mini with Retina display key specifications

  • 7.9-inch, 2048 x 1536p resolution (326 ppi)
  • 5 MP Camera
  • 1080p HD Video on rear-facing camera, 720p on front-facing camera
  • f/2.4 aperture
  • Face detection 
  • HDR
  • Lightning connector
  • A7 chip with 64-bit architecture and M7 motion coprocessor
  • 16, 32, 64, and 128GB storage options

Comments

Total comments: 82
cjcampbell
By cjcampbell (10 months ago)

All right. We have an iPad Air. Will there be an iPad Pro?

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dark goob
By dark goob (10 months ago)

My sources say yes

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BigBen08
By BigBen08 (10 months ago)

Apple's memory pricing is still pretty steep. Going from 16GB to 128GB will cost you $300.

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Martin_PTA
By Martin_PTA (10 months ago)

This is my only major gripe with the brand too, and starting life as an Android user it's a hugely frustrating experience! I'm sure they can halve this cost and add a micro-SD slot as well. The present pricing model makes buying a Macbook a more sensible buy than a 128 iPad.

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halc
By halc (10 months ago)

And no memory card slot.

And no USB expansion.

And no way to easily move to/from the iPad documents of all kinds (Apple wants to sell everything via their own store, everything else is done more difficult).

And very, very steep pricing for the hardware you get.

Non-repleacable battery and very expensive in-store battery replacements (or throw-away tablets).

And oh, totally locked down OS, which you can't change. Either you like it or bad luck then.

Otherwise, faultlessly brilliant.

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BigBen08
By BigBen08 (10 months ago)

Well said, halc.

My guess is that Apple wants people to use their Cloud, so perhaps they will never include a memory card.

I'm torn between the ipad Air and the Samsung 10.1 Note 2014 edition. Since I'll be loading the tablet with photos, video and lots of docs (pdf), having removable memory is a benefit. If not for that, I'd lean towards the ipad Air.

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dark goob
By dark goob (10 months ago)

Wrong on ALL counts, Halc. Apple's memory is more expensive because it's super-fast SSD type memory, 10 to 50 times faster than crappy MicroSD cards that get lost in your carpet. There is zero delay loading very high resolution photos on an iPad. My Android tablet with its slow SD slot has higher gigahertz but it's a complete dog for working with photos. Android also takes a big performance hit due to running in a Java VM, whereas iOS rides directly on the custom 64-bit hardware. There really is NO comparison, unless you are mentally deficient, and know nothing about how computers work.

The fact is there are simple adapters to use MicroSD or USB with any iPad. Yes, it's an external adapter, but a USB cord is already an external connector, so who cares? As for SD, the only time I need to use my SD adapter on iPad is when I'm downloading photos into it, and I don't find the adapter to be an inconvenience.

You get what you pay for! My iPad battery is amazing after 18 months of use.

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dark goob
By dark goob (10 months ago)

Also, iOS is far from "totally locked down". In fact iOS allows apps much more direct hardware access than Android does; music synthesizer apps on iPad run with almost NO lag, whereas on Android they are pretty much unusable. This is again because Android apps are forced to run within a Java VM that is extremely limiting on how the app can perform vs. the full capabilities of the hardware.

Apple provides a very powerful custom development environment that allows you to create fully custom software for your iPad to make it do almost anything you can dream up, using C, C++, Objective C, or Java. It's the exact opposite of "locked down."

As well it's a simple matter to jailbreak an iPad, which takes 5 minutes. There are tons of open source projects you can then install and run.

I mean with Android you typically have to "root" the device anyway to do much, so how's that any different?

Oh and iPad's battery doesn't expire while it just sits there doing nothing, as Android loves to do.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

dark goob, you're an incorrigible Apple fanboy... Let's see why.

1. "Also, iOS is far from "totally locked down". In fact iOS allows apps much more direct hardware access than Android does; music synthesizer apps on iPad run with almost NO lag, whereas on Android they are pretty much unusable. "

You're mistaking openness to being (almost) realtime. They have nothing to do with each other.

"Apple provides a very powerful custom development environment that allows you to create fully custom software for your iPad to make it do almost anything you can dream up, using C, C++, Objective C, or Java. It's the exact opposite of "locked down.""

Even stating iOS can be programmed for in pure Java shows you don't know anything of programming. Sorry.

"As well it's a simple matter to jailbreak an iPad, which takes 5 minutes. There are tons of open source projects you can then install and run."

If a JB _is_ available. It hasn't been since April, starting with 6.1.3.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

"I mean with Android you typically have to "root" the device anyway to do much, so how's that any different?"

Wrong too. Android is much more capable even without rooting. Decent, true multitasking, flux-alikes etc. are all possible without rooting. These are all impossible w/o jailbreaking on iOS.

"Oh and iPad's battery doesn't expire while it just sits there doing nothing, as Android loves to do."

With power come problems. However, if you do kill other tasks from the task manager (the softkey on the right), there will be no battery drain. I'm always doing this on my Nexus 7 2013 and have _never_ encountered mysterious battery drain.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

"You get what you pay for! My iPad battery is amazing after 18 months of use."

Talk about quality, heh? Just google for 'swollen iPhone 3GS battery' (without the quotes). Just some examples:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3718734

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXAPliiRq4I

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33448355@N07/sets/72157633931601917/ (pics!)

As you can see, you can't be sure you get what you pay for... with the 3gs, exactly the opposite. Talk about "quality"...

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

"Wrong on ALL counts, Halc. Apple's memory is more expensive because it's super-fast SSD type memory, 10 to 50 times faster than crappy MicroSD cards that get lost in your carpet. "

BS. They aren't desktop (200-500 Mbytes/s) speed.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

"Android also takes a big performance hit due to running in a Java VM, whereas iOS rides directly on the custom 64-bit hardware. There really is NO comparison, unless you are mentally deficient, and know nothing about how computers work."

It's YOU that don't know how computers work. For example, you don't know currently available iPads are all 32-bit. It's only later ones (iPad Air / mini 2) that will be 64-bit.

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Marcos Villaroman
By Marcos Villaroman (10 months ago)

It will be interesting to hold an iPad Air and see how the smaller size/lighter weight works. Does the smaller size mean it is easier to hold despite having less bezel to grab?

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HeyItsJoel
By HeyItsJoel (10 months ago)

It just means it's easier to steal. lol.

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Lightime81
By Lightime81 (10 months ago)

What app is that on the iPad screen?

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

vjay. http://www.algoriddim.com/vjay

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Lightime81
By Lightime81 (10 months ago)

Thank you.

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Mister J
By Mister J (10 months ago)

I teach photo workshops to primary students and am amazed how many have iPads, and use them as cameras.

Simple on-board edit tools help, so they now know how to crop!

For me, the iPad's an excellent viewing tool, though my iPhone makes a more wieldy camera.

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JadedGamer
By JadedGamer (10 months ago)

Especially Asian tourists seem to use iPads as cameras around here (Oslo); presumably it means one less thing to take on the trip...

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shutterbug nut
By shutterbug nut (10 months ago)

yes, there is a new ipad mini with the retina screen, and I agree that's what held me back on the original mini was the
screen resolution. Thanks for the feedback Photog74

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Photog74
By Photog74 (10 months ago)

Of the two iPads, the mini with Retina is the more interesting one - basically what the mini should have been right from the start. The size is right and the 326ppi resolution is cool to show off photos.

The iPad Air is... well... yawn.

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technotic
By technotic (10 months ago)

There was no announcement of a Mac Mini was there (so this article says)? I was hoping there would be.

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shutterbug nut
By shutterbug nut (10 months ago)

My question is, get the new ipad mini w/ retina or get the ipad air. Screen quality is my main want. More dense vs. bigger?

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

It all boils down to pocketability. Want a pocketable device? The Mini. Don't need pocketability? Probably the Air is the better choice.

For me, while my iPad 4 is better, I prefer my Nexus 7 2013 when I go out because it's pocketable, while, for the iPad 4, I need a separate carrying bag.

EDIT: this all assumes the two devices have otherwise the same specs (CPU speed and RAM). Hope the Mini is in no way a watered-down, crippled version of the Air.

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JF69
By JF69 (10 months ago)

The Mini's dimensions indicate that it will be indeed "pocketable"…or not? Depends on how one defines "pocket" I guess.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

The Mini is somewhat wider: 7.87 x 5.3 x 0.29 inches, as opposed to the Nexus 7 2013's dimensions: 7.9 x 4.5 x 0.34 inches

That is, I'd say if your Nexus 7 2013 is perfectly pocketable in your, say, shirt pocket, you may be able to pocket the iPad Mini too.

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write2alan
By write2alan (10 months ago)

What good can the newest Mac OSX do if it can not be installed on a DuoCore Power PC with 16 GB of RAM. Apple is full of it....I won't spend a single dime on Apple products. I got robbed by Apple about $3000.00 a few years ago.

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marike6
By marike6 (10 months ago)

Mac OSX hasn't been able to run on PowerPC since 2007 and Leopard. It's all x86 architecture now which is actually a good thing as it allow people to be able to dual boot into Windows and OS X.

OS 7 through OS 9 on the Power PC Macs were great, but they were kind of buggy compared to the faster, more rock solid OS X.

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write2alan
By write2alan (10 months ago)

@marike6: I don't think you got my point. Apple abandoned all the PPC users worldwide. I own a 2008 G5 with 16 GB of RAM. It is one very capable machine but can't upgrade OSX 10.5x. Yes, you can dual boot buy why? I also have PC's that run Windows much better.

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unknown member
By (unknown member) (10 months ago)

2008 isn't a few years ago. In computing terms it is ages ago. You lost some support for your five year old computer? Welcome to owning a computer.

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

2008 was a long time ago.

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quiquae
By quiquae (10 months ago)

PowerMac G5 was discontinued in 2006.

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groucher
By groucher (10 months ago)

I remember that when Macs ran on PowerPC, Apple banged on and on about how their machines were faster than Intel based machines despite PowerPC's much lower clock rates. It is true there's more to the amount of work that a processor does than clock rate but as soon as Apple moved to Intel, they started banging on and on about how the Intel machines were so much faster than their old PowerPCs. What a bunch of con-artists - put me off Apple for life.

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rikyxxx
By rikyxxx (10 months ago)

@write2alan
A 2008 G5 can exist only in your mind. Apple sold G5 macs up to 2006.

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rikyxxx
By rikyxxx (10 months ago)

@groucher
Apple sold macs PPC for 9 years and actually they were faster than Intel based machines for the first 7 years.

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graybalanced
By graybalanced (10 months ago)

"Con artists?" Groucher, an informed shopper would never, ever spend $3000 based on the marketing claims of technology companies.

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Aperture79
By Aperture79 (10 months ago)

Youre a fool. Your nearly 8 year old system cant run the latest OS therefore you were robbed? Really, guy?

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Purple House Photography
By Purple House Photography (10 months ago)

I'm on a break right now in the middle of a large photo directory project, shooting a 6D and having people view the images on an iPad. Clients are loving it, and it's virtually seamless. Retina mini would make my setup even better!

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knize10
By knize10 (10 months ago)

Another ''new generation'' of future landfill gadgets ? Just a brilliant chapter in the self annihilation of the human kind.
Thanks Apple.

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DaveE1
By DaveE1 (10 months ago)

Oh the irony. You sitting with your landfill gadget, making your silly comments. :D

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unknown member
By (unknown member) (10 months ago)

A proverbial drop in the bucket compared to everything else we destroy and waste.

1 upvote
T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

Very few people throw away iPads. They either get passed down to other family members or friends, or they get sold. There are three iPads in my household, including a 1st generation iPad 1. I'm not going to be throwing any if these iPads into any landfill. If the batteries ever stop recharging, I'll either keep using it (but plugged in) or take it into Apple to have the battery replaced.

I can, however, say that I've discarded several PCs over the years. And a PC tower takes up a heck of a lot more landfill space than a wafer thin iPad!

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Engine Man
By Engine Man (10 months ago)

In Europe it is illegal to throw anything electronic into landfill and every country has logistics to channel unwanted or dead equipment to safe disposal. In fact the price of all new consumer electronics equipment already includes the cost of disposal and all transport from POS.

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Aperture79
By Aperture79 (10 months ago)

I cant tell if youre trolling, or immensely stupid.

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jcmarfilph
By jcmarfilph (10 months ago)

Hotly anticipated? Yawn, just another addition to crippled iTabs from Apple.

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unknown member
By (unknown member) (10 months ago)

The only people who think an iPad is crippled (along with all other Apple devices) is someone who wants their tablet or phone to be a computer. As for their actual computers, they are just as capable as any and if you want their ecosystem you pay the price....the same as any other computing device. Relieving yourself all over any brand in an attempt to oppose conformity or control doesn't make you any more of a free thinker than would burning books you disagree with. To believe you have freedom and control is the first incorrect assumption, and to believe a choice someone makes after due consideration must, by your definition alone, be based on mindless herd mentality only reveals your closed-mindedness.

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bronxbombers4
By bronxbombers4 (10 months ago)

It sure would be a heck of a lot more convenient if they didn't lock them down so much and give them a freakin USB port already! Why do I need to lug around a bulky old laptop piece of junk just to plug in a WD Passport HD to offload 5D3 ML RAW video onto when I have a power tablet computer iPad with me? Why???? Because Apple has become everything they whined about in their 1984 commercial! Give us a darn USB (3.0) port already and don't cripple this than and everything else an otherwise super amazing tablet can do!

Yeah MS is nuts for trying to turn PCs into tablets, that's ridiculous and awful, but you Apple are nuts for refusing to turn tablets into PCs!!!! MS is going down in flames for the former and you will eventually for the latter.

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bronxbombers4
By bronxbombers4 (10 months ago)

They also make it tough to do other trivial actions you can't nicely tether to most cameras well, why not be able to see color-managed liveview streams on it and so on?

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Martin_PTA
By Martin_PTA (10 months ago)

Many exposures to this kind of comment held me desperately clinging to Android for over two years. I perceived Apple affinity to be no more than exaggerated patriotic American loyalism. Even through the many hours of fiddling, tweaking and Android housekeeping apps evaluations, I still kept clinging to the Google O/S. It was the dismal show of Samsung in my country who just couldn't roll out an update seven months after its international release (& still can't) who eventually pushed me into the Apple camp. Although early days, I have no regrets (yet). As far as I'm concerned it's the Android tabs that are crippled by what seems to be a lack of optimal integration between O/S & H/W. I cannot comment on the latest Android devices, and if they haven't done so already I hope Google & their h/w manufacturers find each other & realize long term survival relies on joint ownership of overall product quality. In the meantime I think I'll enjoy my new iPad! iPhone now made the shopping list!

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Aperture79
By Aperture79 (10 months ago)

If you dont like it, dont buy it; stop bitching.

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Banhmi
By Banhmi (10 months ago)

"If you dont like it, dont buy it; stop bitching."

Maybe you should not bitch about people bitching.
I believe you have engaged in an act of meta-bitching.

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joe_leads
By joe_leads (10 months ago)

If I could just use the iPad for tethered shooting with my DSLR as I can do with my Nexus...

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

You mean via Wi-Fi, or, via USB OTG?

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joe_leads
By joe_leads (10 months ago)

USB OTG. If I wanted Wifi, I would require the WT-4 for my D800, whose price point it just stupid at currently 700 Euros.

1 upvote
Peter too
By Peter too (10 months ago)

Yes. I want to run Canon software on an iPad and use it to drive the DSLR. I can then mount the camera at close to ground or water level, view the scene through the iPad and use the iPad to fire the shutter.
It would also be nice to have a USB port to make it possible to connect a mini disk to back-up photos.

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racketman
By racketman (10 months ago)

love my mini, awaiting news of a retina display iMac, surely soon now.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

I'd also love a retina iMac - I hate my pixelizated 27" one. However, I'm absolutely sure we won't see them for at least another year. Or more. After all, we're speaking of screens being far more than 4K when Retina'ed.

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tabloid
By tabloid (10 months ago)

Interesting to know the size of the sensor.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

As Apple didn't mention its size, it's surely 1/3" or even smaller. I bet the latter is true - it's hardly larger than 1/3.2" - remember they did state many times the 5s has a somewhat larger sensor than the 5 (1/3" vs. 1/3.2").

Otherwise, they would advertise it all the way.

The bigger omission I've found is the lack of the panorama mode of the 5s. Man, that't be a KILLER feature for people not wanting to get the 5s but still missing its excellent sweep panorama.

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Impulses
By Impulses (10 months ago)

$400 mini vs $230 Nexus 7... Tough sale, I didn't think there'd be a price hike with the Retina display but I guess it makes sense if they're keeping the old one. Selling the old model well into 2014 would be rather odd tho... It's gonna start dragging a-- with updates.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

"$400 mini vs $230 Nexus 7... Tough sale"

Yup, particularly with the Nexus 7's having a lot more features (seamless HDMI output, NFC, USB OTG, Miracast, f.lux without having to even root, standard Bluetooth etc.) and being a lot more open. I love mine (the 2013 model), albeit I I'll surely get the new iPad Mini now that it has the same architecture and resolution as its larger sibling.

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Jun2
By Jun2 (10 months ago)

2X faster. We will see how Nexus runs under kit-kat, supposely faster

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

"2X faster. We will see how Nexus runs under kit-kat, supposely faster"

It's pretty hard to compare two entirely different OS'es. Nevertheless, the Nexus 7 is plenty fast, even if it "only" has a Snapdragon S4 Pro running at a higher frequency. It's about the same speed as my iPad 4 and considerably quicker than my iPad 3.

I only encounter slowdowns with the Nexus 7 2013 when I have more than three Web pages open in Chrome. Then, scrolling does become jerky. Otherwise, I like the device very much.

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photogeek
By photogeek (10 months ago)

Nexus 7 sucks, I'm sorry. Wi-Fi dies on mine all the time, battery life is not great, app selection is poor, it hangs sometimes, Netflix app is worse than on iOS, aspect ratio is wrong, charging is slow (due to micro usb), need I continue? Mine is going to eBay as soon as the new minis hit the store shelves.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

photogeek: sorry to hear that. Im pretty sure your device is either a dud or you have some apps / services running in the background constantly using the CPU, resulting in slowness and bad battery life.

I routinely kill all other, non-needed tasks and have both stellar battery life and excellent speed - again, based on my experience (say, Facebook message / Web page download times), around the same speed as that of the iPad 4. And much better battery life at higher (comparable) backlight levels.

My Nexus 7 2013 isn't rooted and have only installed a hadnful of apps (mostly camera apps and two f.lux-alikes). Is yours rooted?

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photogeek
By photogeek (10 months ago)

I had three Nexus tablets so far (2 previous gen 1 current). All were busted in one way or another. One started getting unbearably slow after a while, one died completely, and this latest one is also not entirely problem free either. This is also the last one I will buy. I've suffered enough with this crap.

And no, it's not rooted. I have no time to tinker with gadgets, I just need them to work reliably every time I fire them up.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

Yup, I've heard 1st-gen Nexus 7's had slowdown problems necessiating a complete reset and OS reinstall. (No first-hand experience with those as I didn't bother purchasing it, the iPad 4's being much better.)

However, with the new Nexus 7 I've been using all the time for more than a month, I have no problems at all, apart from having to manually kill background tasks when I notice the system is starting to slow down. No other problems at all. (Knocking on wood.)

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DaveE1
By DaveE1 (10 months ago)

I have the new Nexus. Nothing but pain with it. I picked up an iPad mini recently and so far a joy to use. I'll be looking at some of these new iPads when they hit the stores.

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Impulses
By Impulses (10 months ago)

No issues whatsoever with my Nexus 7 2013... shrug It charges in a couple of hours even when using wireless charging (which is very convenient) and I actually prefer the 16:10 aspect ratio for both movies and reaching (web pages aren't square...).

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T3
By T3 (10 months ago)

I hate the Nexus 7 for displaying photos because of its long aspect ratio. The iPad's 4:3 aspect ratio works much better for photos. The colors on the Nexus 7 also don't look nearly as good as on the iPad Mini. But the Nexus 7 is fine if you don't care how photos look on it.

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bronxbombers4
By bronxbombers4 (10 months ago)

It's too bad android is based around java programming though, what a nasty pig of a language

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

"It's too bad android is based around java programming though, what a nasty pig of a language"

Disagreed. I've been programming tons of different mobile OS'es: iOS, Android, Bada, Windows Phone and Windows Mobile. Android being based on Java makes it instantly accessible to programmers. Not so with Objective-C, which needs a LOT of learning. Actually, iOS (Objective-C) is the most learning-needing OS when you program it for if you don't know Objective-C. (And most programmers don't, unlike with Java (Android), C/C++ (Bada, WinMo) or even C# (WP).)

EDIT: Actually, it was having a very-hard-to-master API of Symbian that was probably the main reason for Symbian's downfall. Very hard to program for means few 3rd-party apps. This mistake wasn't repeated with Android and its super-easy programming model. And you can see how good its ecosystem is.

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photogeek
By photogeek (10 months ago)

The flipside is that Java makes android accessible to _inexperienced_ programmers as well. And the result can be easily seen in the Play Store.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

Yup, there are lot of cr@ppy apps. But it's still a WAAAY better situation than with Symbian.

Back in the day, I (an otherwise very experienced C++ / Java / Obj-C / C# programmer) contemplated developing for Symbian. After reading some intros, I decided not to. It was just too complicated compared to the above-listed OS'es I've been actively develop for. And a lot of other programmers thought the same - hence the low number of apps for Symbian.

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jimr
By jimr (10 months ago)

Still reading about repeated reboot issues with the Nexus 7 (2013).
After all these months you would think the Nexus 7 bugs would be fixed.....
Not an encouraging sign.
Is it a software/firmware problem, or a Nexus 7 hardware problem?
Either way, Google has not done its job fully correcting this issue even after all this time with a widely known issue......

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (10 months ago)

Might be the initial batch of devices? I, who have a newer one, may have not run into any of these problems because I have a newer device.

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Al Patterson
By Al Patterson (10 months ago)

Or imagine a 32gb Nook HD+ for $179. You can buy two for the price of one 16gb Mini...

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makofoto
By makofoto (10 months ago)

As gross as it is ... people are using the iPads to take photos ... so Apple really should keep up with better cameras. It IS cool seeing large photos when using the iPad cameras ... nice for older folks ... and ... we know the population is aging ...

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quiquae
By quiquae (10 months ago)

Gives the term "large format camera" a whole new meaning...

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joe_leads
By joe_leads (10 months ago)

I love iPad photography. Nothing is better than a bunch of moms'n'dads holding up their iPads in the air directly in front of you at any concert or event to snap some noisy blurred pictures in the dark.

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photo_rb
By photo_rb (10 months ago)

I don't see anything wrong with people using tablets to take photos providing they don't restrict other's views as in your example. We don't need "fashion police" in photography.

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