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Hands-on with the 20.7MP Sony Xperia Z1

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The Xperia Z1 features a 20.7MP camera on a 1/2.3 sensor and succeeds the Xperia Z as Sony's flasghsip smartphone.

With the launch of the Xperia Z1 smartphone Sony is the first large manufacturer to throw its hat in the ring at this year's IFA trade show in Berlin. The Android 4.2 device, which had been heavily rumored under the code name "Honami," follows the Xperia Z, which itself was only launched at CES in January, as Sony's top-end smartphone.

The big news on the Z1 is the 1/2.3 imaging sensor that is larger than those used on most smartphones.  The comparatively large sensor and the high pixel count of 20.7MP in combination with the addition of a physical shutter button demonstrate that, like Nokia with its latest Lumia models and HTC with the One, Sony is another manufacturer that has identified camera performance as a key differentiator in the smartphone market. 

We had a chance to have a closer look at the new model at IFA; read on for our first impressions.

Key Photographic / Video Specifications

  • 20.7 MP 1/2.3 Exmor RS CMOS sensor
  • F2.0 lens
  • 1080p/30 fps video
  • HDR video

Other Specifications

  • Snapdragon 800 quad-core 2.2GHz processor
  • 5-inch 1080p Sony TRILUMINOS display (441ppi)
  • Android 4.2
  • 2GB of RAM
  • Waterproof body (IP55/58)
  • 16 GB internal memory
  • microSD up to 64GB
  • 3,000 mAh battery, non-removable
  • Available in black, white and purple

Body & Design

With its angular design the Xperia Z1 follows in the footsteps of its predecessor but the one-piece aluminum frame that is visible around the edges makes the Z1 feel even more like a premium product. At 169g the Sony is not heavy but feels very solid, and a little more chunky than some of the competition. Both front and back of the device are covered in scratch-resistant glass. This gives the device a luxury touch but unfortunately also makes the back very prone to fingerprint smearing. 

The Z1 sports the same angular design as the original Xperia Z ...
... and its glass-covered back unfortunately attracts fingerprints in the same way.

Like its predecessor, the Xperia Z1 is also dust- and waterproof to 1m depth (certified to IP55/58). The Z1 is not built for use in a war zone or even a building site, but it should survive a drop in the toilet or use on a dusty beach. The new model's focus on mobile photographers is emphasized by the addition of a dedicated shutter button. Slots for a MicroSim or microSD card are hidden under rubber flaps.

Power button and volume rocker can both be found on the right edge of the device.
Mobile photographers will appreciate the inclusion of a dedicated shutter button.

Comments

Total comments: 81
Matt1645f4
By Matt1645f4 (11 months ago)

Will never touch Sony again my wife and i both have Xperia T and have been returned both for faulty batteries which need replacing, mine has also has been sent back again since for another battery. and both constantly freeze, turn them selves on and off. over heath when not in use and generally the worse phone i've ever had. only good point is Sony's customer service has been first class but i worry thats only due to being used so often!!!

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Eddy M
By Eddy M (11 months ago)

I think it's not the hardware, it's the software issues. Mine (xperia TL) did that too but after I flashed the most recent original sony firmware (not AT&T firmware) and debloated it, it runs as smooth as butter now, even battery lasts longer.

1 upvote
keeyoni
By keeyoni (11 months ago)

When will we have RAW off the Xperia Phones?

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ageha
By ageha (11 months ago)

Never. ;)

0 upvotes
Stealthy Ninja
By Stealthy Ninja (11 months ago)

YAY MEGAPIXELSSSSS!!! #YOLO

Srly haven't we learnt yet?

1 upvote
Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

We have. Sony haven't. No wonder they've been diligently stuffing their 20 Mpixel sensors into their HX series of P&S cameras only to deliver absolutely rubbish IQ. (This is why Megapixel race-wise more conservative manufacturers like Pana or Nikon have, generally, IQ-wise, much superior P&S cameras, compared to the Sony HX series.)

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aaanouel
By aaanouel (11 months ago)

Megapixel race makes no sense, I agree, but saying "HX series of P&S cameras only to deliver absolutely rubbish IQ." is as false as a three dollar bill.
HXs are not full frame nor APS-C sensor cameras but they have outstanding IQ if knowing a bit about photography and how to use a camera.

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Stealthy Ninja
By Stealthy Ninja (11 months ago)

Replying to my own post... apparently it usually shoots in 8MP and uses "all of the sensor" to make those 8MP. That's not too bad if it's pixel binning or something similar.

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Sirandar
By Sirandar (11 months ago)

Very Impressive phone .... when my S3 dies I have another option besides Samsung now.

If the camera is good this would be a very flexible phone because is isn't crippled with respect to storage as it has microSD.

64gb of microSD means most of us can carry our entire music collections on the road without ever syncing again so it also makes the perfect audio player. Files also transfer orders of magnitude faster when you plug the card directly into a computer VS using USB based MTP.

If it isn't wildly overpriced this phone should do very well.

2 upvotes
zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (11 months ago)

it will take a while.... unless you drop or lose your S3.

0 upvotes
Mattoid
By Mattoid (11 months ago)

What is the focal length of the lens and thus the angle of view? What are the dimensions of the phone?

0 upvotes
ET2
By ET2 (11 months ago)

I think it's 5mm (27mm eqv ) F2.0

1 upvote
Lars Rehm
By Lars Rehm (11 months ago)

Hi guys, I just got a Z1 test unit, so I should be able to post a gallery sometime in the next couple of days.

8 upvotes
0lf
By 0lf (11 months ago)

I hope for Sony your samples will be better than those already on the internet...

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Lars Rehm
By Lars Rehm (11 months ago)

let's see what somebody who actually knows how to use a camera can do :-)

6 upvotes
Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (11 months ago)

Yes, please test it extensively. I'm hoping that the Z1's image quality is good enough to retire my Canon S90 (despite the smaller sensor). It would be nice to take only one camera, as my Galaxy Note 2 pics are barely acceptable imo. Thank You!

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ET2
By ET2 (11 months ago)

Please do the studio shot so it can be compared directly to Nokia 1020

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AndyHWC
By AndyHWC (11 months ago)

applaud for the dedicated shutter button. Hopefully the phone will have similar IQ as WX300, HX50. But users should not expect better IQ than Lumia 1020, maybe better than Galaxy NX though. 1020 has OIS and 1/1.5" sensor based on proven technology from Pureview 80.

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Boerseuntjie
By Boerseuntjie (11 months ago)

My Sony Xperia ZL has a dedicated shutter button and volume acts as dedicated zoom I love this phone but have to say the picture quality in low light is bad, I hope this Z1 is better

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (11 months ago)

AndyHWC--

The Samsung Galaxy NX has an excellent APSC sensor, shoots raw, takes excellent lenses made for Samsung by Optron, can easily shoot above ISO 3200. So no a smallish 41 MP sensor in a camera with no raw capacity does not beat the Samsung Galaxy NX. (And yes I have shot samples with the NX300 so know what the sensor can do.)

The Nokia 1040 has a decent jpeg only camera for use in daylight. If Nokia were serious about image quality in phone cameras, Nokia would allow recording in raw and release the underlying code for that recording so others could write serious raw extraction software for those raws.

And now Nokia-Microsoft had best add card slots to future Windows phone models–Blackberry and Samsung haven’t made that mistake, like Apple, Nokia, and HTC did.

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AndyHWC
By AndyHWC (11 months ago)

@By HowaboutRAW, sorry, I was referringto the new Galaxy phone with integrated zoom lens, forget the exact model name but it is not the Galaxy NX.

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Mrrowe8
By Mrrowe8 (11 months ago)

Actually it has beaten the Nokia , the Sony with expandable memory card slot can allow for transfer of cards , down load images to your computer and run through geniune fractals and nik software and poof noise reduced. .. The Nokia HAS NO expandable memory and you must use a cloud based system thus tying you to pay system .. So beaten and the addition of lenses means this is the real beginning of the end of PS Cameras .. For me it will depend in carrier ..

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CortoPA
By CortoPA (11 months ago)

"down load images to your computer and run through geniune fractals and nik software and poof noise reduced. .."

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHA........

You really know the core of the Cameraphone market........People cant wait to spend hundreds $ to doctor their facebook pics....

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Bilgy_no1
By Bilgy_no1 (11 months ago)

While the 'no expandable memory' remark is true, I'm sure that you can actually connect the Lumia 1020 to a PC with a USB-cable to transfer your files.

In terms of IQ, there's no good comparison yet between the two. So, it's too early to declare a winner in that department.

Where the Z1 does beat the Lumia 1020 hands down is in processing power. The Snapdragon S4 Plus may be sufficient to run Windows Phone 8 smoothly, it is not powerful enough to deal with all those pixels. Camera start-up time (around 5 sec) and shot-to-shot time (around 2 sec) are quite bad for such a camera centric smartphone.

I do believe that Nokia (or MS) should make an update of the 1020 quite soon after the release of the next WP update that should enable quadcore processors (Snapdragon 800, I guess).

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DMakogon
By DMakogon (11 months ago)

Lumia 1020 plugs into a computer via USB, just like nearly all other phones, so you can clear off memory as often as you wish. Regarding cloud storage: Skydrive offers 7GB free. Want to expand? Upgrades start at 20gb, and 50GB runs $25 annually. Current prices of good-quality 32GB SDHC cards run $30-40, so cost is not really a factor. No obligation to upload to SkyDrive - you can simply use the 32GB of onboard memory.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (11 months ago)

Bad that it doesn't have removable battery. A deal breaker for me. Otherwise a good phone.

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Maltytasker
By Maltytasker (11 months ago)

Disappointing that it doesn't have a removable battery. Having to keep an external power pack connected whenever it runs low on charge is very inconvenient, and a deal killer for me.

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Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (11 months ago)

i have a note 2. The battery easily lasts all day and i rarely need to charge before dinner, so I doubt i'd ever need to swap batteries.

I'm curious to see what you're doing that drains the battery so quickly and doesn't allow for you to be anywhere for more than 30 minutes to charge.

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Lars Rehm
By Lars Rehm (11 months ago)

so you think a second battery is more convenient? You'll have to power off the device to swap batteries, plugging in an external one makes this much easier. Of course the root of the problem is the dismal battery life of almost any mobile device these days :-)

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

Guys, have you checked out Sony's comparisons to other cameraphone flagships at http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/legal/testresults/xperia-z1/ ?

Your opinion? I think SONY is lying to us when stating their Z1 has beaten all other models. Why?

For example, the "Baby asleep at ultra-low light " is HIGHLY dubious. All the non-OIS cameras produced severely under-exposed images as was easy to predict. The Lumia 920 opted for a much longer exposure because of its OIS. However, the Z1, which does NOT have an OIS, just can't reliably produce an image as shown in the test. It'd either need ISO 25600 (which would be noisy even on APS-C) or, with ISO 1600 or 3200, an exposure of about 0.5s.

It's fully impossible to shoot a tack-sharp image with 1/2s shutter speed on a non-OIS device with 28mm equiv FoV.

I haven't examined the other results but I'm afraid they're equally flawed and can in no way be taken seriously.

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Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (11 months ago)

No one knows the testing conditions other than sony and this isn't the "final" software.

i'd wait for full reviews before jumping to conclusions.

Though I feel 8-10mp should have been enough..

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wansai
By wansai (11 months ago)

pretty sure they must have braced their phones. no way in hell they can get 1/2 second hand held.

even with 5 axis stabilisation of the omd, i need to execute perfect shooting form, lean myself against a wall if i want to get a 1/2 hand held shot.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

"pretty sure they must have braced their phones. no way in hell they can get 1/2 second hand held.

even with 5 axis stabilisation of the omd, i need to execute perfect shooting form, lean myself against a wall if i want to get a 1/2 hand held shot."

Exactly. Sony's plain lying.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

"No one knows the testing conditions other than sony and this isn't the "final" software."

Well, given that the Honami doesn't have OIS, you will in no way get a non-blurry image 99% of the time in ultra low light, handheld. With such a small and high-Mp sensor you simply can't use ISO's over 3200.

This is a fact that is fully independent of the firmware version or the test setup. Unless the latter involves "all phones were mounted on a tripod", which isn't mentioned in Sony's material.

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rpm40
By rpm40 (11 months ago)

Of course it was mounted on a tripod. I'm sure they took every precaution to get the best results they could. I wouldn't expect any different. Then again, I would do the same if I were going to take the same shot.

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tompabes2
By tompabes2 (11 months ago)

The main problem I see is the bad, really bad quality when the images are viewed at 100% size: look at the leaves, for example... the image looks almost "pixelated". I don't know if the problem is the noise reduction or compression algorithm, but certainly it would have been better to have a 13MP sensor with decent output (someone said GS4?) than a 20MP sensor with such a bad output at pixel level. Of course, when images are viewed at "facebook size" these artifacts disappear, but facebook audience is not exactly the target of an advanced cameraphone.
As to the baby test, some phones need to be used in night mode when it's darker, so making a test with the default settings only is just a way to forge the results you want.

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ET2
By ET2 (11 months ago)

You can clearly see they are using tripos in the photos. So your argument blows up right there.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

"You can clearly see they are using tripos in the photos. So your argument blows up right there."

Too bad

- they don't mention this anywhere and can only be seen after checking out the images

- as has been pointed out by others too, it's not common for smartphone shooters to use tripods. That is, comparing strictly tripod-only performance, where the lack of OIS / large(r) pixels isn't that big a problem, is, to put it mildly, not the most fair and/or most practice-simulating approach.

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Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (11 months ago)

actually, it's the first image that comes up from your link.

You're making assumptions that the company only used a tripod for the sony phone. The most likely scenario was that the company used tripods for all phones and left them in auto. In which the sony did quite well.

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MistyFog
By MistyFog (11 months ago)

I am not surprised that Sony used a very long exposure time for that low-light shot on auto mode. I have a Sony NEX, in Auto mode it ALWAYS caps the ISO at 1600 and go crazy with the shutter speed, sometimes choosing 2-3 seconds exposure which is absurd for handheld shots. This is ridiculous and fair to say that Sony's Auto mode is unusable for low-light shots.

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MistyFog
By MistyFog (11 months ago)

@Tonkotsu

The 1020 baby shot is quite suspicious. The metering measurement should be quite similar between the 1020 and 920/925/928, it is highly unlikely you will get such drastic difference between the 1020 and 925. The 1020 is certainly very capable of handling a slower exposure time (1s to 1/3s is actually quite possible handheld).

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

"The 1020 baby shot is quite suspicious. "

Yup, the SONY folks didn't really configure every "tested" phone deliver at its best.

For example, it's pretty easy to configure the iPhone 5 to extend the shutter speed up to 1s and, consequently, provide much better low-light shots. (I think I've already linked to my flickr set showing this in action: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33448355@N07/sets/72157634921449003/ . The pic names are pretty self-explanatory.)

And the same stands for the 1020. It's capable of going up to 4s. It would certainly have taken a much better exposed image.

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thx1138
By thx1138 (11 months ago)

Why I am pleased they went for a much larger sensor and fast lens, really 20.7MP is roughly 16.7MP too ,many and just a farcical number for a phone. The Experia Z only had 13MP on it's 1/3.2" sensor and it's IQ was nothing short of abysmal. I expect only in very good light at the lowest ISO will we see decent IQ, but of course on the tiny screen the downsampling will give the illusion of decent quality, which again begs the question why have 20.7MP?

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zodiacfml
By zodiacfml (11 months ago)

for better digital zoom, similar to Nokia

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MistyFog
By MistyFog (11 months ago)

"similar to Nokia". That's quite an euphemism.

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dbateman
By dbateman (11 months ago)

20Mp is a bit high. But since its on android, would be great for a 3rd party to write a binning software to improve noise. 5Mp would be enough and might offer great results.

Would also be interesting to see if 4K video would be possible. But the process would really have to be fast to handle data. But might be more common now that other 4K phones are out.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

"Would also be interesting to see if 4K video would be possible. But the process would really have to be fast to handle data. But might be more common now that other 4K phones are out."

Snapdragon 800 (the SoC) supports 4K capturing. However, Sony decided not to enable 4K recording. Probably because of the lack of H.265 support or the too low throughput of the system.

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zigi_S
By zigi_S (11 months ago)

1/2.3. What a joke.

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ybizzle
By ybizzle (11 months ago)

It's like no one is even trying to beat Nokia. Let's be honest. Both the 808 and 1020 are the phone camera kings. 20mp on a 1/2.3 sensor is going to yield abysmal image quality!

5 upvotes
Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (11 months ago)

until there are android versions of the 1020/808, nokia is really only competing with itself.

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ybizzle
By ybizzle (11 months ago)

My solution has been to have 2 phones. I have a week day phone which is my android phone and on weekends, I switch to my 808 because I go out more and use the camera frequently. This way I have the best of both worlds.

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (11 months ago)

ybizzzle--

Before making image quality claims, why not wait for samples from the Sony.

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KariIceland
By KariIceland (11 months ago)

HowaboutRAW i prefer to wait for samples from reviewers, waiting for "samples" from the manufacturer is like expecting a banker to not give you a fakeish report.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

"Before making image quality claims, why not wait for samples from the Sony."

The already-leaked ones are pretty poor - as anyone can expect from a 1/2.3" 20 Mpixel sensor in all contemporary Sony cameras / phones. Not only this one, but also the latest HX model.

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ybizzle
By ybizzle (11 months ago)

Anyone one with half brain can tell you that 20mp on that tiny sensor is going to give you poor results. If you like grainy pics, then go for it!

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dpmaxwell
By dpmaxwell (11 months ago)

"It's like no one is even trying to beat Nokia."

Yeah, that's such an ironic sentiment. Considering Nokia just sold their phone business to Microsoft.

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wansai
By wansai (11 months ago)

dpmaxwell, why does that matter? the 1020 is still leaps and bounds better camera than the honami. i dont base how good a product is on how popular it is. I base it off of what i need it for.

you know your smartphones? i used them way before they became popular with the masses because they did what i wanted from a mobile device. they werent popular back then. i didnt base my decision on popularity or successs of those companies. i based them on the product.

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Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (11 months ago)

wansai, no one cares about windows phones

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

"wansai, no one cares about windows phones"

YOU don't care. A lot of photo geeks do. After all, given that the Z1 doesn't really offer anything photo-related over the 1020 (or even the 808), the 1020 is still a MUCH better choice with MUCH better IQ than that of the Z1.

Heck, not even 1080p60 recording is supported (let alone 4K), while for example the LG G2 or the 2014 Samsung Tab 10.1 does. That's another letdown ruling out the Z1 entirely for me (in favor of the above-mentioned two Android handsets / tablets).

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HowaboutRAW
By HowaboutRAW (11 months ago)

KarliIceland+Menneisyys:

There’s a significant difference between what I wrote: “wait for samples from the Sony”. And what you think I wrote, eg “wait for samples from Sony”.

Look just skimming y’all may have missed my point or y’all could be non-native English speakers (Karli maybe).

My point remains, wait for samples from the Sony. Here “the” means pictures taken with this Sony, not limited to samples supplied by Sony the company. (Those samples can come from anyone who has access to the phone. And the reason I singled out the Sony is that samples from the Nokia 808+1040 already exist.)

And before someone says it: Samples exclusively taken in bright daylight aren’t real helpful.

Karli--

I must ad that in the USA bankers statements are still respected, unlike Iceland almost all of them got away without prosecution. In other words we know the reports from big banks are fake but banker types abound too much in the USA's thinking about itself.

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Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (11 months ago)

menneisyys, photo geeks carry real cameras.

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MistyFog
By MistyFog (11 months ago)

"no one cares about windows phones". Spoken like a true fanboy.

So all that honami hype is deflating faster than a leaky balloon. Sony used to be good, but lately they have been relying more on hype than actual substance. But this faked comparison by the hired gun is a new low.

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Photog74
By Photog74 (11 months ago)

It's extremely strange to read that a 1/2.3-type sensor is "large," even "comparatively large." Sure, it's bigger than a 1/3" one. But come on, it's still tinier than tiny.

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ET2
By ET2 (11 months ago)

What's so strange? 1/2.3" sensor is larger than the sensor used in most phones (Note 3, IPhone, Galaxy HTC, etc) which is 1/3.1" size

Sony also claims the image quality beats Nokia 1020 in blind tests, but that has to be tested by independent reviewers.

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/legal/testresults/xperia-z1/

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Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (11 months ago)

it's large for a phone. have you try thinking?

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Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (11 months ago)

tried*

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/legal/testresults/xperia-z1/ ? that should be taken by a big shovel of salt.

For example, the "Baby asleep at ultra-low light " is HIGHLY dubious. All the non-OIS cameras produced severely under-exposed images as was easy to predict. The Lumia 920 opted for a much longer exposure because of its OIS. However, the Z1, which does NOT have an OIS, just can't reliably produce an image as shown in the test. It'd either need ISO 25600 (which would be noisy even on APS-C) or an exposure of about 0.5s.

It's fully impossible to shoot a tack-sharp image with 1/2s shutter speed on a non-OIS device with 28mm equiv FoV.

I haven't examined the other results but I'm afraid they're equally flawed and can in no way be taken seriously.

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supeyugin1
By supeyugin1 (11 months ago)

The 1/2.3 sensor in my Pentax Q performs very good for its size. I have no complaints.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

"The 1/2.3 sensor in my Pentax Q performs very good for its size. I have no complaints."

Nevertheless, it still can't take shots at ISO 25600 to keep the shutter speed high to avoid blur.

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Photog74
By Photog74 (11 months ago)

No, its not even "large for a phone." The 1/1.2" sensor in the Nokia PureView 808 *was* large for a phone, even though a 1/1.2" imager is still quite small. But yeah, for a phone it was "large." Even the Lumia 1020's 1/1.5" (i.e. 2/3") sensor could be described as "large for a phone." But a 1/2.3" chip isn't "large" by anybody's standards. As I've said, sure, it's bigger than a 1/3" one, but it's still tinier than tiny. In case you didn't understand, it was specifically the word "large" that sounded strange to me with respect to a sensor this small.

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Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (11 months ago)

no one cares about nokia's niche phones, so the fact that they have larger sensors is irrelevant. We're talking about phones that people actually buy and use, like android and apple.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

"no one cares about nokia's niche phones, so the fact that they have larger sensors is irrelevant. We're talking about phones that people actually buy and use, like android and apple."

YOU don't care. A lot of photo geeks do. Don't mix up Average Joes or, in even worse cases, technofobes (99,99% of iPhone customers) with us. We DO value quality cameras in phones.

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Tonkotsu Ramen
By Tonkotsu Ramen (11 months ago)

sony isn't making this phone for the 10 people that will buy a nokia regardless. They're making it for everyone else.

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MistyFog
By MistyFog (11 months ago)

@Tonkotsu,

Were you the same author of that fake comparison report? It's got those impressive looking graphs showing "wow, it's got the WORLD'S LARGEST image sensor" until you notice "... in an Android smartphone".

"World's most compact high resolution camera"... until you notice that asterisk: compact is defined as 10mm thickness or below. The 1020 slightly miss the cut at 10.5mm.

I doubt that Sony spends as much time on R&D as it does preparing cute little graphs, making up its own definitions (cleverly defining categories to exclude its rivals), twisting the truth, and resorting to hyperbole.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

"Were you the same author of that fake comparison report? "

+1 :)

""World's most compact high resolution camera"... until you notice that asterisk: compact is defined as 10mm thickness or below. The 1020 slightly miss the cut at 10.5mm."

A new low by SONY?

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Jogger
By Jogger (11 months ago)

If video is as good as the cybershot hx series (which use the same sensor).. it should be a huge step up from cellphone video. Hopefully they enable avchd 2.0. Image quality will be better too, but, its got far too many mp.

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

" Hopefully they enable avchd 2.0. "

No 1080p60.

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ConanFuji
By ConanFuji (11 months ago)

Nice

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Chazn
By Chazn (11 months ago)

Your turn, Apple.

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the mono eye
By the mono eye (11 months ago)

i don think apple can do any better than this... although i really hope they can pull out something under their sleeve...

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Menneisyys
By Menneisyys (11 months ago)

"i don think apple can do any better than this... although i really hope they can pull out something under their sleeve..."

They won't. iOS7 is equally incapable as iOS6 (no manual modes at all) and the 5S leaks don't show a sensor with dramatically increased size or OIS. (And Android supports some manual modes - not as much as Nokia's phones though.) That is, all we will have is an IQ of the SG4 at max. No OIS, no 1020, no 808.

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